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What were your biggest takeaways from the New York Jets week 6 loss to the New England Patriots?
Dalbin Osorio: A couple of things that I took away from the loss that really probably shouldn’t be a loss is that 1) the Jets won’t quit this season and 2) they are still a QB away from catching the Patriots for this division title. I love Jamal Adams, and am incredibly happy that he is here. However, yesterday’s game looks very different if the Jets had Deshaun Watson under center instead of Josh McCown. There were plays to be made for the Jets offense, and a better QB makes them. McCown is so easy to root for, but the gap between these two teams remains at the QB position. The Jets absolutely must address this in the offseason, and not just with a stop gap but with someone who can be here longer than two years.To the first point, the Jets will fight for Todd Bowles this year. They will also fight for each other, and that goes for all young guys and most veterans. This team and staff clearly heard all the 0-16 talk before the season, and they are doing their very best to make sure they are in every game. This was another example of that.
Scott Mason: I spoke at length about this with Kyle Fahey on the TOJ Postgame Podcast as I walked through the parking lot of Metlife Stadium Sunday afternoon, but here’s essentially what my thoughts were following the Jets’ 24-17 loss to the Patriots:
-The low-risk, high-reward players Mike Maccagnan signed over the past two seasons (ASJ, Ealy, Claiborne) have mostly played very well. Claiborne did a good job most of the afternoon containing Brandin Cooks, Ealy batted down a Tom Brady pass, and ASJ had one TD and was robbed of another (I don’t care what Kyle Fahey says, those refs were wrong and the Jets got screwed).
-The young players struggled a bit but are still developing. Rob Gronkowski got the better of Jamal Adams, but who does he not get the better of? Now Adams has that learning experience under his belt.-Josh McCown seems like a great teammate but he is who he has always been: a QB who won’t be embarrassing but also misses too many opportunities while making too many mistakes to be a real difference maker. No matter what happens from here on in, the Jets cannot delude themselves into thinking they don’t need to make a major move of some sort at QB after the season.
-Todd Bowles seems to be coming into his own a bit. Whereas last season he looked like a man who was in over his head, he looks like he is beginning to grow into the head coach role and has taken control back of his team in a way that Ben McAdoo has not be able to with the Giants. Whereas I once thought he was guaranteed to be gone at the end of 2017, I now think there’s a better than average chance he stays.
David Aitken: Maccagnan has been spoiling Jets fans lately with late preseason waiver wire additions. Kony Ealy and Austin Seferian-Jenkins have been two of the team’s best players and are looking like offseason priorities when their contracts expire in 2018.
The Jets may have gotten a hot start, but it’s becoming clearer each week that the Jets offense is a low ceiling group operating close to max capacity. This is five weeks straight that the team’s scoring output through four quarters has ranged between 17-20 points. Especially with a sputtering run game, the team is reliant completely on playing small ball with Kearse, Kerley, and Seferian-Jenkins and hoping to hit it big on the occasional attempt to Anderson down the field. Josh McCown is in his element playing like this, but it’s a different ask flipping the switch and asking a career journeyman to push the ball down field and carry an offense.
There are also clear limitations upfront on both sides, as the Jets are failing to generate any consistent pressure or move bodies in the run game. Outside of two explosive plays against Jacksonville, the Jets running attack has been largely struggling. And yet the Jets have won 3 and will feel hard done by given certain calls yesterday. It’s been a good season for Bowles so far – he’s rightfully winning a lot of fans back.
Mike Nash: My biggest takeaway from the game is just how good Austin Seferian-Jenkins is. It has been awhile since the Jets have had a true weapon at the TE spot, but it looks like ASJ has proven to be a top target going forward for whoever is at QB. He is a solid route runner with great hands. He should have had two touchdowns on Sunday.
Along with ASJ, how good has Jeremy Kerley been? While I would love to see Stewart and Hansen get some more playing time, it will be hard to take Kerley off the field. Kerley has been one of McCown’s favorite targets all season and has been impressive to go along with Jermaine Kearse.
Greg Armstrong: Todd Bowles is looking like a real NFL coach. At the beginning of the year, the talk was that there was little to no chance of him coming back next season but now he seems like the perfect guy for this team. The guys buy into him and that shows on the field. They also don’t get rattled. After the ASJ botched call, the Jets could’ve laid down and called it quits. Instead, they were in position to tie the game on the last possession. I think a lot of that has to do with the coaching.
-Mike Maccagnan had a very good off season. Getting rid of guys like Brandon Marshall, Darrelle Revis and Sheldon Richardson makes this team a lot more likable and makes them easier to root for. This actually feels like a team more so than just a group of guys playing football together, as was the case last year. Guys like Kony Ealy, Morris Claiborne and Jeremy Kerley have had a very good first six weeks and Mac essentially got them from the scrap heap. It’s only six games but his moves are paying dividends early and often.
-This team looks like it has the confidence to play with anybody. I get that the Patriots are having a somewhat down year, but they still have Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. This team didn’t seem phased by it at all. They were a couple of mistakes away from winning this game. The mistakes are expected from a young team but the thing that stuck out to me the most was that they never let the game slip away. They were always within striking distance of the Pats. Hopefully they can carry that over for the rest of the season.
Kyle Fahey: Well, even if you’re rooting for the tank…. that was a heartbreaker. Though the brightest light will shine on the ASJ fumble, there were many more flaws throughout the game that caused the Jets to lose.
There were a lot of negatives… for one, where in the hell is the pass rush? We literally have Leo getting double teamed on almost every play. Are you telling me there is no way somebody can get to the QB when one player takes up 2/5ths of the line…. that is ridiculous!
The running game was atrocious, I haven’t watched enough film to determine whether it is on the Oline or the backs themselves…. but ill take a guess that Matt Forte had something to do with it.
Even with those major flaws, there are some things to be excited about. The pair of Demario Davis and Darron have proven quite good together…. (i know right, I read that over a couple times in my head as well).
One of the biggest takeaways from this game was Todd Bowles and the fact that he didn’t get amazingly out coached. Yet again, uncharacteristic from the past but true in our current state. I was the biggest Todd hater in the world at one point, now I’m feeling confident in building around him.
Jared Scherl: My biggest takeaway from the loss to the Patriots is that the Jets clearly are not as bad as we expected at the beginning of the season. I was not convinced of this after beating a Dolphins team that completely no-showed, a Jaguars team in which their quarterback was throwing ducks all game, and a Browns team that handed the Jets 2 turnovers inside the red zone and should have been up by 17 points at halftime but were instead down by 3. Although there are no moral victories in the league, losing by 7 points to the Patriots (and getting screwed out of a crucial touchdown) is nothing to be ashamed of, especially considering the fact that this team was generally expected to have 3 wins all season.
One thing I am worried about, however, is how the Jets are playing this well. Offensively their skill position players are Josh Mccown, Jermaine Kearse, Jeremy Kerley, Matt Forte and Austin Seferian-Jenkins. Of this group, only Seferian-Jenkins is a legitimate playmaker for the long term. Defensively, the supposed stud of the unit is Leo Williams who has been completely invisible so far this season. Twenty one tackles, 0 tackles for loss, and 0 sacks does not cut it for a 6th overall draft pick, regardless if he’s being double-teamed all game or not. The other supposed building block is Darron Lee, who while playing better of late, still has a long way to go to reach the expected level of a first round draft pick.
While it’s nice to see the team playing competitive football, I would much rather it because of the play of Christian Hackenberg, ArDarius Stewart, and Leo Williams, rather than because of Josh Mccown, Jeremy Kerley, and Demario Davis.
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