Initial Reaction – New York Jets Embracing The Awfulness

The New York Jets continued to bottom out today with a 27-17 loss to the San Diego Chargers

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It was a sad day at MetLife Stadium. The New York Jets have fully regressed to 2007, when December home games were filled with bitter, disinterested fans watching a bad football team play out the string.

Shockingly, a second year 7th round quarterback wasn’t the answer to all the Jets problems. Greg McElroy looked overwhelmed in his first NFL start, turning the ball over twice, taking unnecessary sacks and showing the lack of arm strength that will prevent him from being this team’s answer at quarterback. The rest of the team, with the exception of a handful of players, were truly awful and looked like a team ready to head home for the off-season. There is not a coach on the Jets offensive staff who deserves to be employed in the NFL next season and Rex Ryan’s beloved defense was pushed around by one of the league’s worst offenses.

The offensive line embarrassed themselves. Shonn Greene can’t crack 40 yards rushing unless he gets 20 carries. Eric Smith is still Eric Smith. The linebackers are slow. Kyle Wilson remains his terrible self (at least we didn’t see any finger wags today).

What else can you say? It needs to be blown up from top to bottom. If you have been paying attention, you knew this already.

How about a few positives? Quinton Coples recorded a sack in his third straight game, finishing with 1.5 on the day and now has a team leading 5.5 on the season. Muhammad Wilkerson also added in a sack and now has 5 on the year. The two of them and Kenrick Ellis form the core of an excellent young defensive line. Braylon Edwards has looked strong since returning and the Jets are going to be able to bring him back on a low cost contract and get a productive player. Outside of that? I guess Robert Malone has put together a good season of punting the ball.

One game left and then the rebuilding can commence!

Turn On The Jets Week 16 NFL Picks

The TOJ Staff submits their week 16 NFL Picks

The Race for Steak continues. Note that last week’s record includes the most recent Thursday games –

CURRENT STANDINGS

1. Rob Celletti (123-95-6)

2. Chris Gross (113-105-6)

3. Mike Donnelly (112-108-4)

4. Chris Celletti (111-108-5)

5. Joe Caporoso (96-122-6)

Joe Caporoso

Last Week (9-6)

  • Atlanta (-3.5) vs. Detroit
  • Tennessee (+12.5) vs. Green Bay
  • Oakland (+8.5) vs. Carolina
  • Buffalo (+4.5) vs. Miami
  • Pittsburgh (-3) vs. Cincy
  • New England (-14.5) vs. Jacksonville
  • Indianapolis (-7) vs. Kansas City
  • Dallas (-3) vs. New Orleans
  • Washington (-6.5) vs. Philadelphia
  • Tampa Bay (-3) vs. St. Louis
  • Giants (-2.5) vs. Baltimore
  • Minnesota (+7.5) vs. Houston
  • Denver (-13) vs. Cleveland
  • Chicago (-5.5) vs. Arizona
  • Seattle (PK) vs. San Francisco
  • Jets (-2.5) vs. San Diego

Mike Donnelly

Last Week (9-6)

  • Falcons -3.5
  • Titans +12
  • Raiders +8.5
  • Bills +4.5
  • Steelers -3
  • Jaguars +14.5
  • Chiefs +7
  • Cowboys -3
  • Eagles +6.5
  • Bucs -3
  • Jets -2.5
  • Texans -8
  • Giants -2.5
  • Broncos -12.5
  • Bears -5.5
  • Seahawks PK

Rob Celletti

Last Week (10-5)

  • Falcons (-3.5) over Lions
  • Titans (+12.5) over Packers
  • Raiders (+8.5) over Panthers
  • Dolphins (-4.5) over Bills
  • Steelers (-3) over Bengals
  • Patriots (-14.5) over Jaguars
  • Chiefs (+7) over Colts
  • Cowboys (-3) over Saints
  • Eagles (+6) over Redskins
  • Rams (+3) over Buccaneers
  • Giants (-2.5) over Ravens
  • Texans (-7.5) over Vikings
  • Browns (+13) over Broncos
  • Bears (-5.5) over Cardinals
  • 49ers (PK) over Seahawks
  • Chargers (+2.5) over Jets

Chris Celletti

Last Week (5-10)

  • Falcons
  • Packers
  • Raiders
  • Dolphins
  • Steelers
  • Patriots
  • Colts
  • Redskins
  • Rams
  • Giants
  • Texans
  • Browns
  • Bears
  • 49ers
  • Jets

Chris Gross

Last Week (7-8)

  • Falcons (-3.5)
  • Packers (-12)
  • Raiders (+8.5)
  • Dolphins (-4.5)
  • Bengals (+3)
  • Patriots (-14.5)
  • Chiefs (+7)
  • Saints (+3)
  • Eagles (+6.5)
  • Bucs (-3)
  • Ravens (+2.5)
  • Vikings (+8)
  • Denver (-12.5)
  • Bears (-5.5)
  • 49ers (pk)
  • Jets (-2.5)

New York Jets – What Do We Need To See In Final Two Games?

What should New York Jets fans hope to see in the team’s final two games?

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The New York Jets final two regular season games basically break down to being nothing more than glorified pre-season games (without any kind of glory I suppose). What should a Jets fan root for these upcoming weeks against the mighty San Diego Chargers and the Buffalo “Fredo” Bills?

Greg McElroy – You can’t say at this point it won’t be interesting or mildly entertaining to watch somebody besides Mark Sanchez pump fake and throw interceptions or Tim Tebow scramble around and do nothing. Hopefully, the coaching staff allows McElroy to operate a normal NFL offense, not the JV-high school offense the team normally runs. We aren’t going to learn anything about his potential strengths and limitations from having him go 10/14 for 86 yards next week because all he was allowed to throw was slants and boots. Ideally, McElroy plays confident, turnover free football and shows enough to be considered a reliable back-up next season or maybe even a competitor along with a veteran for the starting job.

Young D – No more 35% of the snaps for Quinton Coples who has a sack in each of the last two games and is starting to really come along in his rookie season. Get him out there for 50-60 snaps and let him get accustomed to the extended work. The same goes for Kenrick Ellis who will be your starting nose tackle next year when Sione Pouha is released. Demario Davis should be playing the bulk of the reps at inside linebacker alongside David Harris and Antonio Allen should continue to see increased reps at outside linebacker and as a pass rusher on third downs.

Wide Receiver Shuffle – Haven’t we seen enough Chaz Schilens and Clyde Gates at this point? You make Braylon Edwards your starting split end, to see how he handles major reps. You put Jeremey Kerley as your starting flanker since he has been your best receiver this season and could be in this spot next year if Santonio Holmes is released. You put rookie 7th round pick Jordan White in the slot, since he hasn’t been given a chance yet. They get all the reps. No Schilens. No Gates. Certainly no Mardy Gilyard.

Just Give Him A Chance – Give Joe McKnight 10-15 carries and let’s see if that 6.1 yards per carry can come anywhere near to holding up. It certainly won’t end up lower than Shonn Greene’s 3.9 yards per carry. Let McKnight and Bilal Powell who will both be on the team next year, while Greene probably won’t, handle the workload in the backfield.

Turn On The Jets Stock Watch: The 2013 Defense

Mike Donnelly’s weekly Stock Watch is buying and selling members of the New York Jets defense

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In case you missed Part 1: The 2013 Offense, the link is right here. Today it’s all about the 2013 defense.

DEFENSIVE LINE

BUY: Mo Wilkerson, Quinton Coples, Kenrick Ellis – These three guys are going to be the foundation of the defensive line hopefully for many years to come. Wilkerson has established himself as one of the elite interior defensive linemen in the entire league, and we can’t say enough good things about the job he’s done this year.

Quinton Coples has been brought along slowly by this coaching staff, and while it’s frustrating to not see him out there as much as we’d like, it’s important to remember he’s just a rookie and he’s playing in a very complex defensive scheme. I expect a big time season in 2013 from him. As for Ellis, a knee injury derailed parts of his 2012 season, but he flashed some serious talent when on the field, and he is likely to be our starting nose tackle next year. These three are the only linemen on the team that we can say will be back for sure next season.

SELL: Sione Po’uha – He’s a fan favorite and by all accounts a great teammate, but 350 pound men that develop back problems usually don’t get better as they get older. With his somewhat high price tag for 2013, he has cap casualty written all over him.

BUY: Sione Po’uha being brought back on a reduced contract – There is no question Sione is getting released, but if he’s willing to take a 1-year deal at a reduced rate to come back, I could see the Jets doing that so that they don’t have to just throw Ellis into the fire full-time. I’m not so sure Damon Harrison will be ready to take on a meaningful role, so this could definitely happen.

SELL: Mike DeVito – DeVito has been one of my favorite players for quite a while now, but he’s a free agent and Quinton Coples was clearly drafted to take his spot on the line. I’m sure the Jets would love to have him back, but they just won’t be able to afford the veteran run-stuffer. Look for a cheap veteran to be brought in to spell the starters, someone in the Jay Richardson or Marcus Dixon mold from this past training camp.

LINEBACKERS

BUY: David Harris and Demario Davis – They are the only two linebackers you can say for sure will be back with the Jets in 2013. While Harris’s play has slipped this season, he’s still the best linebacker we have and his guaranteed salary means it will be difficult to find a trade partner, while releasing him would make no sense. As for Davis, he’s the future at linebacker in the green and white. He’s got rare athleticism and he’s already stepped up as one of the vocal leaders on the team. He’s one of the few players on this team that’s worth getting excited over heading into the future. Plus, he has a really hilarious signature:

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SELL: Bart Scott and Calvin Pace – There was a time these two were the rocks of the defense. Now, not so much. I’ve crapped on Calvin Pace a lot in this space throughout the season, so there’s no need to say much more about his play. Cutting him will save an awful lot of money on the 2013 cap, and that’s the first time something involving Calvin Pace has put a smile on my face in over two years.

Bart Scott is another sure cap casualty, and while many dislike him and his big mouth, I’m going to miss having him around. He’s something of an antiquated player in this new passing-happy NFL, but few linebackers are able to fill a gap and blow up a run play like Bart. When I think of Bart Scott, I’m not going to think of the guy pathetically chasing after Shane Vereen on Thanksgiving night, but rather the “Madbacker” who single-handily gave this defense a swagger and contributed a great deal to the 2009-10 teams.

BUY: Josh Mauga and Garrett McIntyre – The team needs solid backups who won’t cost much. These two guys have actually played well, especially McIntyre of late. He’s been our best outside linebacker the past few weeks, which is impressive until you remember who our other linebackers are. Still, he’s played well. Mauga was also a pretty solid player for us before he got injured. Look for him to come back next year and have a solid role with the team.

SELL: Bryan Thomas – The longest tenured Jet gave it everything he had this season and played surprisingly well as old-age and injuries started to take their toll on him. It’s sad to see a proud vet like Thomas end his career like that, but it’s over for B.T.

BUY: Signing 1 OLB, Draft 1 OLB  – It’s imperative that the Jets bring in a reliable veteran who doesn’t lumber like Frankenstein toward the quarterback. There are several nice options available this year in free agency including my personal favorite Conner Barwin of the Texans, who can definitely be had. Beyond him, the market includes guys like Anthony Spencer, Paul Kruger (who has Rex Ryan connections), and Shaun Phillips. Garrett McIntyre will likely be back next season, but he’s best suited as a part-time player who can split reps with a rookie, so a good reliable veteran NEEDS to be brought in.

This 2013 draft is loaded at offensive line and with edge rushers. Those are two things the Jets badly need, especially the linebackers. The Jets should absolutely use their first or second round pick on an edge rusher to give Coples and Wilkerson help up front. Look at the difference guys like Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Bruce Irvin and Jason Pierre-Paul have made for their defenses in recent years. The Jets need an immediate impact pass rusher this year. If you get a good one with the first round pick, sign a veteran like Barwin, and supplement that with a guy like McIntyre and hopefully a late-round project player as well, we’re starting to see a potentially excellent defense being formed. I’m giddy just thinking about the Calvin Pace-less linebacking corps!

SECONDARY

BUY: Revis and Cromartie – Many people are already starting to say the Jets should trade one of these two guys. 8957599-largePersonally, I really hope the Jets don’t. We all know what we have in Revis, and even coming off his ACL injury, he’s arguably the best defensive player in the NFL. I just don’t think you should go and trade away future Hall of Famers. Cromartie has blossomed into arguably the second best corner in the league this year behind Revis. That’s a lethal combination to have in such a pass happy league. Let them both lock down their receivers next year, add a pass rusher or two, and this defense can easily become the best unit in the league again.

BUY: Kyle Wilson – I am not a Kyle Wilson fan, but we can do worse at the third cornerback spot. In fact, we have been doing MUCH worse lately with Ellis Lankster in that role. Wilson has a modest price tag for next year, won’t yield much in a trade and cutting him is pointless, so he will almost certainly be back. Hopefully it’s as the #3 corner and he doesn’t have to move up to the #2 spot if the aforementioned trade occurs.

SELL: Ellis Lankster – I didn’t really enjoy the Ellis Lankster era, I’ll say that.

BUY: Aaron Berry – I was hoping we’d get to see more of him this year, but injuries knocked him out for most of the season. I expect him back to compete for a spot next year, and I’d like to see him win it.

BUY: Yeremiah Bell – Bell has very quietly put together a very good season this year. He’s getting up there in age, but he’s not going to break the bank and he provides solid veteran leadership. If he doesn’t retire, I think he will return to the Jets for another season and that would be a great move for us.

SELL: Laron Landry – I love Landry just as much as the next guy, but I think he’s going to price himself out of the Jets range. Landry has had an excellent season, and if there’s a way they can squeeze him under the cap, I’d LOVE to see him for a full season with Revis and Cromartie locking down receivers on the outside. I just don’t think it’s going to be feasible. Damn.

If Landry does end up pricing himself out of the Jets range, there are several other very good safeties who will be free agents. The most intriguing of course would be Ed Reed, who has been fighting with Baltimore over his contract for the last two years or so now. He has ties to Rex Ryan and it would be interesting to see if Rex could woo him here. Also available will be Jairus Byrd, Dashon Goldson, and Kenny Phillips of the Giants.

SELL: Eric Smith – YES! FINALLY! Good-bye Eric Smith! Go rough the punter somewhere else next year.

BUY: Antonio Allen and Josh Bush – Bush has been one of the few Tannenbaum draft choices who hasn’t been cut at least once this season, so he will definitely be back next year and will likely get more snaps. If Landry does leave, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Allen play a much more meaningful role next season either.

New York Jets Salary Cap Hell – A Roundtable Interview

An interview with Jason From NY Jets Cap and a former NFL personnel executive about the state of the New York Jets

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The New York Jets are currently in what can aptly be described as “Salary Cap Hell.” Because of that Turn On The Jets reached out to one of our favorite writers covering the team, Jason from NY Jets Cap. You won’t find anybody out there with a better grasp of the Jets financial situation. On top of that, we also spoke with our source within the NFL on the current status of the team and their upcoming future. Finally, I included a few links to worthwhile reads on how the Jets can proceed from here. Enjoy and as always discuss here in the comment section and on our Facebook and Twitter page –

TOJ – Understanding all the salary cap ramifications and his current level of play – What would you do with Mark Sanchez this off-season? And what do you predict will actually end up playing out?

NY Jets Cap – I think the situation is beyond repair and at this point he has to go. I could not even imagine bringing him back in 2013 and having him compete for a starting job. The home crowd can’t stand him and it is simply not going to work. The problem is from a cap standpoint an outright release costs the team slightly over $17 million which will not only make fielding a team more difficult but be a PR nightmare for the front office. If it was me I’d be contacting any team with a bad QB situation (Oakland and Arizona at the top of the list) and seeing if they would trade anything for him and absorb a portion of that salary for next season. At least its a small victory to bring the cap number down. If that can not be done I would designate him a June 1st cut and split the cap charges over two seasons – around $12.15 million in 2013 and $4.8 million in 2014.

I think what actually happens depends on if there is turnover in the front office or not. If there is I think they will do something along the lines of the June 1 cut. If Mike Tannenbaum is still in charge I think he will remain and they will bring his cap number down by paying some of his 2013 salary as a bonus and deal with the cap consequences of that move the following year.

TOJ – Should the Jets consider trading Antonio Cromartie or Darrelle Revis to free up cap space and begin building through the draft?

NY Jets Cap –  I would take offers for both of them. Again it depends on if you are looking short or long term. A short term move of Cromartie via trade frees up $8.25 million in cap that could go to fixing a number of weaknesses but would not net much in the way of draft compensation. Moving Revis would likely lose cap space in the short term but you would receive higher compensation for him in the draft that can really help in the future. I think there is also the consideration that Revis may not want to come back in 2014 when he will be a free agent when making the move. Either way I would not bring both back next season. Pass defense is the least of the team’s concerns and tying up $20 million in cap for those two is not going to make the team better.

TOJ – Do you think there is any way they could move Santonio Holmes or David Harris’ contract?

NY Jets Cap – Probably not. Holmes I think could have been moved had he not been injured, but his recovery has been very slow and he is coming off a poor season before that. Harris is overpaid and I dont think anyone would want him for $10.9 million in 2013, $9.5 million of which is fully guaranteed. In terms of a pure release Holmes is a candidate and the Jets would receive some credit if he signed with another team and I have to think someone would pay him at least $1-2 million on a 1 year deal. The Jets do create cap room by releasing him. Harris cant be cut due to the salary guarantee.

TOJ – Name 10 players on the current roster who won’t be on the team next season

NY Jets Cap – Bart Scott. Calvin Pace. Eric Smith. Jason Smith. Sione Pouha. LaRon Landry. Dustin Keller. Tim Tebow. Santonio Holmes. Brandon Moore.

TOJ – Considering the Jets need two new starting OLBs, a new starting RB, a new starting RT and G. How many holes can they realistically expect to fill?

smithcol25s-1-webNY Jets Cap – I guess it depends on if they go into full rebuild mode or they go into a retooling mode. The Jets have enough flexibility in their contract structure to go out and grab a few free agents that would help improve the team in the short term. The issue with that scenario is you might replay what we are going through now in another year or two.  If they take the cap pains of the bad deals in 2013 you won’t see any impact players being brought in to fill those spots. It will primarily be all stopgap players, kind of like what the Jets did in 2006 and 2007.

TOJ – Are LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell back next season?

NY Jets Cap – Landry won’t be. I think the price tag is too high and even if the Jets think they are retooling they have to have it in the back of their heads that he is not the answer to a long term rebuild. Bell is a lower cost player and will do 1 year contracts from here on out so I think if he wants to keep playing the Jets will welcome him back.

TOJ – Give me a best case scenario for the Jets off-season

NY Jets Cap – I tend to think the Jets have to think of their long term future and move onward. I think the best case scenario consists of low level trades for Sanchez and Tebow, trading Cromartie, re-signing Revis to a realistic contract, and releasing Holmes. It would probably leave the Jets with $20-25 million to spend in free agency to fill out the roster and not hurt them in the short term while improving their long term prospects. I’m not sure if I would consider Mike Vick or Alex Smith as a one year option at QB, but I think one of those players should be brought in for a look. Vick is more dynamic but Smith is the safer QB. The thing is it can’t be for more than a year. If not I’d look at Matt Moore from Miami and use him as a cheap one year player. If Miami started him this year they would be in the playoff hunt. But to me this is their best team that they can produce and keep 2014 wide open for major improvement.

Worst case scenario is the braintrust going behind closed doors and saying “man if we only had Holmes and Revis for the year we would be 9-7” and then going into the preseason with Sanchez and McElroy battling it out for the starting QB job without releasing any of the big contract guys.

A few quotes from a former NFL personnel executive and current employee of the league on the situation with the Jets

“A current Jets coach had this to say to me about the organization yesterday – As bad as the team looks on the outside, it is ten times worse inside the building.”  – This was a response to an inquiry about the relationship between Rex and Tannenbaum.

“Everyone says the GM should be just doing contracts but that is the worst thing he does. Have you seen the cap of the Jets? It is a mess but with the years left on his contract, I still don’t think he is going to get fired by Woody.”

“It is hard to get a read on what Rex thinks. Who knows the real deal with him because of the lies he throws in front of the media all the time?”

(On chatter about Eric DeCosta as a GM candidate) – “DeCosta is not going anywhere this off-season. Beyond that, take a look at Baltimore’s recent drafts. I don’t think the Jets make the major front office moves their fans are hoping for”

 

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