Response To Rant Of Angry Giants Fan – Shonn Greene and Ron Dayne Comparison Makes No Sense

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Here is my response to Dan Donohue’s assertion that Shonn Greene could be the second coming of Ron Dayne, which was posted here:

http://turnonthejets.com/2010/08/03/rant-of-an-angry-giants-fan-1-why-shonn-greene-is-the-second-coming-of-ron-dayne/

Response To Rant Of Angry Giants Fan – Shonn Greene and Ron Dayne Comparison Makes No Sense

I honestly don’t even want to humor this argument because it is a way to deflect the reality that Shonn Greene is about to rush for more yards than Brandon Jacobs in 2010, by a decent margin. However, that is a different article for a different day (and in reality an article I wrote already, right here http://turnonthejets.com/2010/07/13/10-new-york-football-predictions/ . Let’s go through Dan’s argument for the hell of it:

First off, I would say Shonn Greene’s running style reminds me much more of Eddie George than Ron Dayne. Yes, George did eventually wear down but not until after he ran for 10,441 yards and 78 touchdowns. George weighed 235 pounds and Greene weighs 230 pounds, not the rotund 255 pounds Dayne weighed back in the day, with his Doritos guy and all. I am aware George is 4 inches taller than Greene but their upright form is where I see the similarity.

Moving back to Dayne, in his rookie year he averaged 3.4 yards per carry, which isn’t in the same stratosphere as Greene during his rookie season when he averaged 5.0 yards per carry. Dayne’s 3.4 yards per carry is much more comparable to the 3.7 yards per carry Brandon Jacobs averaged last season, perhaps it would be more suitable to compare the two of them.

Generally, I hear what Dan is saying about Thomas Jones softening the defense for Shonn Greene. It is true that Greene still has to prove he can be a full time starting back. However, in the few games Greene was given “lead back” carries, he showed he was up to the task. As a matter of fact, here are his stats when he had 13 or more carries:

  • Vs. Cincinnati – 13 carries, 62 yards, 4.8 YPC
  • At Indianapolis – 16 carries, 95 yards, 5.9 YPC
  • At Oakland – 19 carries, 144 yards, 7.6 YPC
  • At Cincinnati – 21 carries, 135 yards, 6.4 YPC
  • At San Diego – 23 carries, 128 yards, 5.6 YPC

I don’t know, even though I agree to an extent about Thomas Jones softening up the defense, I am also kind of anxious to see what Greene can do with that amount of carries on a regular basis. Greene left the AFC Championship Game because he couldn’t breath from taking a rib shot, when he tried to come back in the coaching staff held him for Thomas Jones, who wasn’t half bad himself last year.

PhotobucketPeter King has said he thinks Greene is a 1400 yard back. I have said I think he will finish in the 1200-1300 yard range, I think most fans or people covering the team think he will be a 1100-1300 yard guy. Ideally, he will be filling the Thomas Jones role from last year with LaDainian Tomlinson and Joe McKnight combining to fill the Leon Washington role from the first 6 games before he got hurt. Tomlinson and especially McKnight won’t get enough carries to come anywhere near 1,000 yards in my mind. You assertion that Tomlinson will run for more yards than Greene on less carries is about as crazy as saying you expect Jake Delhomme to throw more touchdowns than Peyton Manning.

I didn’t spend much time talking about Ron Dayne because well he is…Ron Dayne. Yet, I would prepare for to see the Jets top notch offensive line and ground and pound approach lead Greene to a superior season than any running back on the pass happy, questionable offensive line Giants.

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Rant Of An Angry Giants Fan #1 – Why Shonn Greene Is The Second Coming Of Ron Dayne

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Welcome to the first part of our new series “Rant Of An Angry Giants Fan.” This off-season we have all noticed how surprisingly bitter and jealous Giants fans and players have been of all the attention the Jets have been receiving. Poor Justin Tuck can’t go three days without making some kind of comment taking a slight at the Jets. Anyway, enter Dan Donohue a good friend of TOJ, who likes nothing more than to come up with elaborate and far-fetched ways the Jets will struggle this season. Here is Donohue’s take on Shonn Greene…don’t worry my rebuttal will be coming in a few hours…take it away Dan:

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Shonn Greene vs. Ron Dayne – Who ya Got?

Both bruising Big 10 running backs with illustrious college careers, we saw how Dayne translated to the NFL, could Greene’s similar style of running be a tip of the cap as to the future for this NY backer?

The numbers –

Dayne

#11 Draft Pick

Rookie Year- 228 carries for 770 yards (3.4 ypc) 5 td’s 1 fumble lost – 2 playoff wins

Being the #11 overall pick Dayne was immediately given a huge workload and asked to produce. Giants fans made the mistake of setting the bar too high for Ron Dayne claiming him to be next coming of Jerome Bettis and inevitably they were let down. There is no debate the Dayne Train is right up there with Ki-Jana Carter as being statistically one of the biggest RB busts in NFL history but that didn’t necessarily mean he wasn’t an intricate factor of the Giants teams success for a few years. In the early years of his career Dayne’s bruising style of running opened the door for an counterpart, the quick flashy dual-back to soak in the spotlight.  If you look at Barbers career, what was the one single event that transformed Tiki from a 300 yard per year rusher to a perennial 1000+ rusher? The addition of thunder to the lightning created a perfect complement that has become sort of the norm for the NFL backfield today.

Greene

#65 overall pick

Rookie Year- 108 carries for 540 (5.0 ypc) 2 TD’S, 3 fumbles lost- 2 playoff wins

Greene’s 5.0 YPC during the regular season and his performances against the Bengals and Chargers are reasons to be enticed by this guy’s upside. In his two playoff games he certainly looked as good as any running back in the game. But without Greene’s playoff performance last year, do the Jets go into the season with a 540 yard rusher at the helm, with a supporting cast that has Super bowl promise written all over it? It is not debatable that Jones softened the defense up week in and week out and Greene ate up the 5.0 yards per carry, primarily in the 2nd and 4th quarter against a tiring defense. (Check the ESPN splits)

TOJ followers I ask you to answer these questions subjectively and realistically.

Are two games enough to crown him a 1400 yard elite NFL starting running back?

Can a back that sat himself down during the AFC championship due to a rib injury really be expected to withstand carrying the ball 25+ times a game and have the same production?

Will LT or McKnight be Greene’s lighting and enjoy the success of coming in and potentially running by a beat down defense like Leon Washington did for the past few seasons?

I plead with you Jets fans do not set the bar for a 1400 yard season out of Greene, because similar to Dayne you’re an inevitably going to be let down.

Greene and Dayne are so similar in running styles it will make any Jet fan feel queasy. The good news Greene has shown flashes to be a superstar running back even if it was just for 3 games (Bengals, Chargers, Raiders). But everyone knows it takes more than just a couple of flashes to attain a title of elite NFL running back. Being the bruising running back in a dual-backfield and pounding the defense for the other guy is something that cannot be overlooked in the NFL now a days. Sure ask Dayne, you might not get the glory being the wrecking ball but what’s more important scoring TD’s or winning games? You debate, but the two-headed monster seems to be the formula for success these days in the NFL and you can not be disappointed with Greene going for 900 yards on 280 carries while LT rushes for 1000 on 220 carries.

And now back to your regularly scheduled TOJ writing

Practice #3 Recap & AFC East Round-Up

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Practice #3 Recap

The Good – Nick Folk going 5/5 on field goal attempts. Mark Sanchez and Dustin Keller showing good chemistry, which was sorely lacking during a good part of the regular season in 2009. Antonio Cromartie pulling in a nice interception. David Clowney catching a 80 yard touchdown pass. Kenwin Cummings and Wayne Hunter getting into a scuffle, which drew Mike Pettine and Brian Schottenheimer into a screaming match. From my playing days, watching an offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator fight on the practice field is always entertaining. Vernon Gholston (Gasp) made a few impact plays. Rookie UDFA tight end Jeff Cumberland flashed on a couple of plays, making me look smart for mentioning him in my training camp sleepers article on Saturday (Yes, I know I mentioned Britt Davis too, whatever).

The Bad – Sanchez throwing an interception and having sub-par completion numbers (6/13). Brodney Pool getting beat by Clowney for that 80 yard touchdown. Kris Jenkins still being on the sideline with a hamstring injury. The fact that we have to hear about Brett Favre nonstop for the next week(s). Beyond that, there weren’t too many negatives being reported.

PhotobucketPlays of the Day – Clowney’s touchdown. Cromartie’s interception. Vernon Gholston’s “would have been a sack in a real game,” always sad that it is such huge news when that occurs.

Player Who Helped Himself – Jeff Cumberland getting his name out there with a few big plays. Nick Folk for remaining steady on day two.

Player Who Hurt Himself – Doesn’t really sound like anybody did too much damage today, although it sounds like Kellen Clemens and Erik Ainge are on their way out the door.

Sanchez Stats – 6/13, 1 INT (Cromartie) in 11 on 11s

Folk Stats – 5/5 (all under 40 yards) still…good start for Folk.

Roster Moves – The Jets signed wide receiver Vic Hall.

Depth Chart – Vladimir Ducasse worked with the first team at left guard today. Kellen Clemens was back on the practice field in a limited role. Kris Jenkins remained sidelined.

Rex Ryan Press Conference Highlights –

  • The team hasn’t hesitated mentioning Darrelle Revis in team meetings and Ryan conceded that he knows Revis’ uncle Sean Gilbert is playing a big role in consulting his decision making process.
  • He praised Nick Folk’s strong start to training camp and admitted he was worried about him after OTAs.
  • He mentioned how David Clowney needs to step up on special teams to help fill the void left by Wallace Wright.
  • When discussing the tight ends, he said Jeff Cumberland has been impressive catching the ball but needs to block better. He would also like to see Dustin Keller become more involved in the run blocking. There was also a bold guarantee of Ben Hartsock doubling his production from 2009 (1 reception, 1 yard, 1 touchdown).
  • Normal praise for Vernon Gholston’s “progress”. I’ll believe it when I see it.
  • Ryan said he knows nothing about the status of Erik Ainge…probably doesn’t bode well for his chances of making the roster.
  • Praise for new acquisitions Antonio Cromartie (new found physicality, LaDainian Tomlinson (still showing burst) and Brodney Pool (ability to quickly pick up the Jets system).

Revis Update – It has been confirmed that Mike Tannenbaum reached out to Revis’ agent last night, in hopes of setting up a meeting. Obviously it is good news that the lines of communication are remaining open and I liked Woody Johnson’s proactive approach about getting a deal done in his press conference yesterday. Honestly, I wouldn’t bank on Revis playing in the first pre-season game but I’d be happy enough if he was back in time for the second or third game.

AFC East Round-Up

Buffalo Bills – Aaron Schobel’s career with the Bills is now over, as they will look to trade or release him. This is good news for D’Brickashaw Ferguson, who always struggled with Schobel. If your Buffalo, you don’t have enough good players to let one of your few ones walk away. Rookie tackle Ed Wang suffered a relatively serious injury and could be out for awhile, as did rookie linebacker Danny Batten. Trent Edwards remains on top of the quarterback depth chart. Currently, Steve Johnson is starting opposite Lee Evans at wide receiver. The Bills had a fight at camp yesterday when last year’s rookie disappointment Aaron Maybin took a cheap shot at Fred Jackson, which fired up the offensive line. Rookie CJ Spiller is still unsigned.

Miami Dolphins – Karlos Dansby has made a strong impression so far at camp. Rookie linebacker A.J. Edds tore a knee ligament in yesterday’s practice. There is some chatter on Twitter about Chad Pennington looking better than Chad Henne so far but our favorite beat writer, Armando Salguero, disagreed with the sentiment. Rookie John Jerry is looking like the leading candidate to start at right guard. First round pick Jared Odrick has been impressive.

New England Patriots – Wes Welker has been practicing with the team. It doesn’t sound like Torry Holt is going to stick around on the final roster, as the Patriots want to give a bigger role to second year players Julian Edelman and Brandon Tate. Nick Kaczur and Ty Warren have been missing time with injuries. Rookie receiver Taylor Price and rookie tight end Aaron Hernandez have been heavily involved in the offense.

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Practice #1 Recap & Why Revis Holdout Won't Be Short

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First a few updates:

1. Our standard training camp procedure is going to be this, after the Jets daily 8:20 AM practice and Rex Ryan’s subsequent press conference, there will be an article summarizing what happened as reported by the beat writers along with analysis of what it all means, along with discussion of another topic. At night, after their 4:20 PM practice, we will do the same thing. On days when there is only special teams practice at 4:20, we should be able to worry a little less about what happened on the practice field and expand on some other issues. There will of course also be posts on their days off, previews and recaps of all the pre-season games, and previews and recaps of Hard Knocks.

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Practice #1 Recap & Why Revis Holdout Won’t Be Short

Practice #1 Recap

PhotobucketThe Good – Bart Scott making fun of Mark Brunell’s age when he came off the bench to run the 2nd offense. Nick Folk going 7-8 on field goal attempts. Braylon Edwards making two impressive catches over Antonio Cromartie. Mark Sanchez not throwing any interceptions. Jason Taylor practicing at 100 percent. James Ihedigbo lighting up Joe McKnight on a run up the middle…welcome to the NFL, rookie.

The Bad – Laveranues Coles dropped a well thrown deep ball by Mark Brunell. Wayne Hunter dropped a short, tackle eligible pass from Mark Sanchez. Joe McKnight muffed a kickoff and dropped a pass. David Clowney had a few drops, including an easy one on a short slant from Sanchez, which drew the ire of Brian Schottenheimer. LaDainian Tomlinson had a fumble in 9 on 7 drills.

Plays of the Day – It sounds like the two acrobatic grabs by Braylon Edwards over Antonio Cromartie were the highlights of practice. Edwards has had a strong off-season and it good to see that he is keeping up in Cortland. Also, Nick Folk starting off camp 7-8 on field goal attempts is the best news of the day, as far as I’m concerned.

Player Who Helped Himself – Braylon Edwards continues to make a case for himself as a legit number one receiver. It can’t hurt Danny Woodhead’s roster chances that Joe McKnight is struggling so much. Rex Ryan also raved about John Conner and how physical he was in the team’s inside run drill. He commented that drafting Conner was his decision and he is feeling pretty good about it right now.

Player Who Hurt Himself – Joe McKnight and David Clowney. McKnight apparently has some anxiety issues, which has factored in his conditioning problems. He passed his conditioning test yesterday with flying colors after calming down but prior to that failed. His nerves continued to hurt him on the practice field today as he muffed a kickoff and dropped a pass. He also took a big shot on a running play from hard hitting safety James Ihedigbo. If the guy is getting this nervous for practice, what he is going to do under the bright lights of Monday Night Football in week one? Clowney has had problems with drops in the past and simply put can’t afford any mistakes in the Jets crowded receiver situation.

Sanchez Stats – Unofficially 4/9 in 11 on 11s.

Folk Stats – 7-8 on field goal attempts…his only miss came from 36 yards. An encouraging sign for everybody who is rightfully panicked about the Jets kicking situation.

Roster Moves – The Jets released WR Britt Davis last night. I was kind of surprised by the move because of the strong camp Davis had in 2009. Yet, the Jets are obviously crowded at the receiver position, especially after adding Laveranues Coles (who is now wearing #85 by the way).

Depth Chart – Brodney Pool was starting at safety. Mike DeVito started at defensive end. Sione Pouha started for Kris Jenkins. Mark Brunell was the #2 quarterback. Dwight Lowery took the bulk of the reps for Darrelle Revis. Vladimir Ducasse and Matt Slauson rotated as the starting left guard. Shonn Greene and LaDainian Tomlinson rotated as the starting running back. Danny Woodhead worked as the third down back. Brad Smith, Antonio Cromartie, Joe McKnight, Kyle WIlson, and Larry Taylor all worked at kick returner.

Rex Ryan Press Conference Highlights –

  • Disappointed with the lack of physical contact overall.
  • Raved about the physicality of rookie fullback John Conner
  • LaDainian Tomlinson tweaked his hamstring before camp but insisted on participating in conditioning drills and now appears to be 100 percent.
  • Didn’t sound too thrilled with Revis when asked about him. He said “there is 11 Jets on defense right now, that’s all I know. We don’t have Revis Rules.”
  • He is impressed with the type of command Mark Sanchez now has over the offense and how he has bulked up a little bit over the off-season.
  • Pleased with Mark Brunell and how he can help all of the young quarterbacks.
  • Said Joe McKnight gets too hyped up but he still is an impressive kid and is explosive when he hits the hole.
  • He did his normal hopeful talk about the potential of Vernon Gholston and said he may be the fastest defensive end in the league…oh boy.

Revis Update – Nothing substantive.

Why Revis Holdout Won’t Be Short

All of the rhetoric coming from both sides yesterday, made it sound like there has been plenty of dialogue yet no progress on agreement on total compensation or guaranteed money. Considering how long this has been going on, it is unlikely everything is going to snap into place in the next few days. Don’t forget Revis held out 20 days in his rookie season and Mike Tannenbaum characterized his rookie contract as “the most difficult negotiations he has ever been a part of.” As the regular season inches closer, the pressure on the organization will rapidly increase. Also, the public image of Darrelle Revis, who has just arrived as a legitimate NFL superstar will take a bigger hit. You would think these factors will push them towards an agreement by the end of the pre-season but you never know. Sean Gilbert, who is Darrelle Revis’ uncle, is closely involved with these negotiations and he sat out an entire season in protest of his contract.

Jenny Vrentas of The Star Ledger wrote yesterday that Mike Tannenbaum appeared genuinely surprised in his press conference that he couldn’t reach an agreement with Revis. Considering the wide range of maneuvers Mr. T has pulled off in recent years that also isn’t an encouraging sign. Even though public opinion seems to be on the Jets side, I feel like Revis has more leverage because of how much hype the Jets have built up around themselves this season. Rex Ryan can posture to the media all he wants, but he knows how badly the Jets need Revis. Woody Johnson just paid for a new stadium and got his organization on HBO, it isn’t good for business when you demonstrate you can’t take care of your best employee. This team is now extremely self-conscious about their media portrayal and shedding the “same old Jets” label, unfortunately having your best player hold out before the most hyped season in franchise history looks like a little dysfunctional.

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Holding Out: Final Words Before Jets Practice Kicks Off

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And so it begins…

Nobody should have been surprised about Darrelle Revis not showing up at training camp in Cortland, New York today. From everything that is being reported this has all the makings of a long, ugly dispute between the Jets and their best overall player. Needless to say, this is not how you want to start the most hyped up season in franchise history.

Revis’ agent Neil Schwartz said his client’s “action will speak louder than words. And his absence will be deafening.” Unfortunately, he is right. Don’t be mistaken, the Jets defensive scheme is largely dependent on having a lock down corner who can handle elite receivers 1 on 1. You can’t blitz the way the Jets do, unless you have a player who can take Randy Moss, Brandon Marshall, or Chad Ochocinco Johnson out of the game by himself. Antonio Cromartie might have that potential and maybe in time Kyle Wilson can give it a run but right now on this Super Bowl or bust team, Darrelle Revis is the best in the business. He is the best corner in the NFL and maybe the best defensive player in the NFL. The Jets defense could be very good in 2010 without Revis but they won’t be an elite unit.

It is justified to be frustrated with the actions taken by Revis. He has three years left on his original contract. Nick Mangold is in the final year of his deal, is rightly unsatisfied with his current contract and he still showed up on good faith about a deal getting done. Nobody likes to see a highly paid athlete who stars in Nike commercials complaining about not making enough money. Yet, Revis is scheduled to be the 8th highest paid defensive back on the Jets in 2010. He listens to his coach say he is the best defensive player in the league all the time and wants to be compensated as an elite player in the NFL.

PhotobucketThere has to be a half way point the Jets are willing to meet Revis at. Mike Tannenbaum has to come up with a band-aid for the next year or two before a long term contract is finalized. The Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Dolphins, Patriots, and Bengals aren’t dealing with this type of distraction now.  You want to talk the talk about being the best team in the NFL and chasing a Super Bowl, it is time to walk the walk and pay your best player. You don’t win championships by not keeping people like Darrelle Revis happy.

There is spin control coming out of both sides right now. The Revis camp is saying the Jets gave him no quality offers. Mike Tannenbaum is saying he offered Revis a long term deal, a short term deal, and a third deal in between the two, all of which were rejected by the Revis camp. He is also saying he offered to meet his representatives in person and they denied the request. Expect the back and forth to continue until some type of middle ground is finally met. Let’s just hope the verbal sparring doesn’t get too ugly. In the end, I can’t imagine the Jets will let this go on for more than a few weeks. Rex Ryan is going to tire very quickly of watching his prized defense practice without its best player, the pressure will build on the organization, Revis’ public image will take a hit, and both sides will realize it is in their best interest to compromise.

According to Tannenbaum the disagreement is over the amount of guaranteed money and whether Revis is going to be paid as the top corner in the league. Thank you again Al Davis for breaking the market trend with that contract for Nnamdi Asomugha.

Other updates –

  • Rex Ryan expressed his disappointment with the Revis absence and said Dwight Lowery and Kyle Wilson will rotate with the first team. I wonder how many deep balls caught on Lowery will inspire Woody and Tannenbaum to get a deal done. Ryan also said anything short of a Super Bowl win is a failed season.
  • In the much ballyhooed weight loss contest, Kris Jenkins took home the title by losing 33.6 pounds on his all cookie diet. Damien Woody came in second by losing 26.2 and Rex Ryan came in third by losing 20.
  • Nick Mangold admitted he was still disappointed with his contract situation but he was still in attendance.

What about some football?

Let’s hope Mark Sanchez comes out of the gate strong in his second training camp. It will be interesting to see the different formations Brian Schottenheimer came up with and how the ball is spread around. On defense, the spotlight is going to increase on Kyle Wilson. If there is one positive of the Revis holdout, it is the extra work and experience Wilson will receive. On special teams, it would be nice if Nick Folk got off on the right foot. Nobody needs to hear about him going 2/7 tomorrow.

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Jets Training Camp Sleepers

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Jets training camp sleepers for 2010, since I should still be sleeping at this time on a Saturday morning:

Aundrae Allison – I am a fan of David Clowney but I think Allison could make a run at the last roster spot at receiver. After the signing of Laveranues Coles, it is pretty clear the Jets weren’t looking for Clowney to see much time at receiver anyway, which means any receiver that makes the roster after Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laveranues Coles, and Brad Smith has to be a big time special teams contributor. Allison was a very good kick returner for the Minnesota Vikings in 2007 and similar to Clowney has terrific speed. If Allison breaks a few big returns in the pre-season, he could end up on the Jets final 53.

Jeff Cumberland – Signed by the Jets as a UDFA, after a very quiet senior year at Illinois, the 6’4 250 pound Cumberland showed potential in mini-camp to develop into a decent pass catching tight end. I don’t think there is a roster spot available for him this year, considering the Jets #3 tight end roster spot will likely be reserved for their long snapper (Tanner Purdum or Matthew Mulligan) but I could see him having a strong August and getting put on the practice squad to have another year to develop.

Donovan Warren – Warren was talked about as being a 2nd round draft pick before a poor showing at the NFL Combine. He was a productive player at Michigan against a high level of competition as a cornerback. The Jets have opted to move him over to safety and considering his talent level, versatility, and Rex Ryan’s love of defensive backs, there is a decent chance of Warren making the final 53.

Kevin Basped – The coaching staff was raving about Basped’s athleticism and long term potential after mini-camp. Basped was a defensive end at Nevada, where he recorded 9.5 sacks his senior year, yet the Jets have moved him to outside linebacker in their 3-4 scheme. At the worst, it sounds like the 6’4 249 pound Basped will make the practice squad so the Jets can continue to develop him. However, it isn’t out of the question for him to grab a roster spot, if he shows he can contribute on special teams during his rookie season.

Cory Reamer – Another linebacker who impressed the coaching staff in the spring, especially with his knowledge of the Jets defense. He is competing at a stacked position, but he is another guy who could be a candidate for the practice squad.

A few others

  • Britt Davis – Receiver with good size who had a strong training camp in 2009. Tough position to be competing for a roster spot at on the Jets.
  • Larry Taylor – Another receiver who caught my eye during mini-camp. I doubt he can get a roster spot but I bet he turns some heads this August.
  • TJ Conley – He could give Steve Weatherford a run for the punter job.

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Weekend Video Clips: Pay The Man

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First a few updates:

1. The Jets officially signed Laveranues Coles today but he admitted in a statement there is a good chance he could be released after the first four games. It is surprising the Jets were so up front with him about it and this also means there is a good chance of a guy like David Clowney or Danny Woodhead sticking around on the roster.

2. The Jets have extended the contract of Rex Ryan and Mike Tannenbaum through the 2014 season.

3. Jason Taylor will wear #99 this season. Bryan Thomas will wear #58.

In honor of the report that the Jets and Darrelle Revis have opened the lines of communication again in hopes of settling his contract dispute before training camp, this week’s edition of Weekend Video Clips is devoted Revis Island.

Jets Fans Should Root For 2007

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First a few updates:

1. The Jets made the following moves yesterday:

  • Erik Ainge was placed on the non-football illness list and there is no timetable for his return. I wouldn’t bank on Ainge being around much longer in green and white.
  • Rookie Joe McKnight failed his conditioning test and was put on the active non-football injury list. He won’t be taken off until he passes the test. What the hell is the deal with this guy? You think he would have been running every single day after his vomit filled performance in mini-camp. Yes, I am already missing Leon Washington.
  • The Jets signed safety Emmanuel Cook and released linebacker Ezra Butler.

2. Follow Turn On The Jets on Facebook and Twitter (TurnOnTheJets). If you aren’t, you just can’t get that full TOJ experience, and honestly that just makes me sad.

3. There has been no movement on releasing Kellen Clemens or Kevin O’Connell since the Jets signed Mark Brunell. Could we have a three way battle for the #2 spot? I feel bad for those second string receivers, Santonio Holmes and Laveranues Coles. What, our second string receivers are Santonio Holmes and Laveranues Coles? That’s what I call some depth.

Jets Fans Should Root For 2007

There is plenty of reason for Jets fans to be rooting for certain key players to reproduce their efforts from the 2007 season –

Braylon Edwards – As a member of the Cleveland Browns in 2007, Edwards pulled in 80 receptions for 1289 yards and 16 touchdowns. The season appeared to establish him as one of the premier receivers in the NFL but unfortunately his production dropped off in subsequent seasons. Edwards wasn’t helped by horrific quarterbacking but also developed a nasty case of the drops, which he is still working on shaking off. The 2007 season did demonstrate Edwards potential to be one the best receivers in this league. I continue to say he is the Jets most physically gifted offensive player.

Antonio Cromartie – Cromartie had a monster 2007 season for the San Diego Chargers. He racked up 10 interceptions and 3 return touchdowns. Similar to Edwards, he seemed to establish himself as one of the elite players in the NFL. Yet, his production also fell off in the following two seasons. He spent time dealing with a hip injury and struggled in San Diego’s zone scheme. However, he also showed a lack of effort at certain times, which is what Jets fans should be most concerned about.

PhotobucketLaDainian Tomlinson – 2007 was Tomlinson’s last season as one of the top backs in the NFL. He finished with 1474 rushing yards and 15 rushing touchdowns, along with adding 60 receptions and 3 receiving touchdowns. We all know how his production fell off a cliff the past two years. Hopefully, behind a better offensive line and in a system more dedicated to running the football he can offer some type of production.

Jason Taylor – Taylor’s last double digit sack season was in 2007, when he finished with 11 for the Dolphins. He also had 4 forced fumbles and an interception this season. Needless to say, every Jets fan would sign up for those numbers from Taylor in a heartbeat.

Nick Folk – Folk was an All-Pro selection in 2007 thanks to going 26/31 on field goals and his impressive five connections from outside of 50 yards. This was clearly long before he was shanking 20 yard kicks and being cut mid-season.

Jerricho Cotchery – Cotchery had his most career receiving yards and receptions in 2007, although I would argue his best overall season was in 2006. Regardless his 82 receptions for 1130 yards was especially impressive considering the Jets quarterbacking that year.

The Jets took a leap of faith this off-season by hoping players like Tomlinson, Folk, Taylor, and Cromartie can produce somewhere near their 2007 level. Considering the Jets depth chart, it is unlikely any of these players will reproduce those kinds of numbers again, with maybe the exception of Cromartie. Yet, the Jets really just need Braylon Edwards to be consistent and to avoid the killer drops, Folk to be stable from inside 50 yards, Tomlinson to be a good third down and short yardage back, and Taylor to enhance their third down pass rush. These guys don’t have to be superstars on the 2010 Jets but instead find their place as role players.

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Thoughts On Jets Adding Laveranues Coles

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First a few updates:

1. Follow Turn On The Jets on Facebook and Twitter (TurnOnTheJets). Also, check out the new edition of Turn On The Jets TV, which should have your heart pumping through your chest.

2. A friendly reminder that training camp starts this Monday in Cortland, New York. The Jets will have practice at Florham Park on August 23rd and August 24th, along with at Hofstra on August 25th. Hard Knocks starts on August 11th at 10 PM and the Jets first pre-season game is on August 16th against the Giants.

Thoughts On Jets Adding Laveranues Coles

Rich Cimini of ESPN New York reported today that the Jets will be working out wide receiver Laveranues Coles tomorrow and are expected to sign him shortly after. This was a move that was speculated throughout the off-season, both before and after the Santonio Holmes trade. Last season on Cincinnati, Coles finished with 43 receptions, 514 yards, and 5 touchdowns. This would be his third tour of duty with the Jets.

I have always been a big of fan of LC, because of his toughness and ability to go over the middle. The decision to sign Coles, clearly indicates the Jets aren’t comfortable with David Clowney being the #3 receiver from weeks 1 – 4 while Santonio Holmes serves his suspension. Personally, I think Clowney would have been fine in that role and that he provides more speed than Coles. However, Coles is still a better overall wide receiver and should be very good in the slot because of his quickness, hands, and ability to run after the catch.

The real question is, what is Coles going to do after week four? First off, how about the lineup of receivers the Jets will trot out against the Minnesota Vikings in week five? Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, Santonio Holmes, Laveranues Coles, and Brad Smith, wow…that is some collection of talent and depth. I am sure Coles understands there will be a minimal number of passes coming his way over the last 12 games. Yet, I am sure Brian Schottenheimer can get creative with a few four receiver packages that will keep Coles in the weekly game-plan. Also, he provides excellent insurance if one of the Jets top three receivers misses time with an injury.

After Holmes returns from suspension, it will be interesting to see if the last receiver on the depth chart, whether it is David Clowney, Danny Woodhead, or Aundrae Allison, ends up sticking around. I can’t image Coles is going to contribute on special teams, so Clowney or Woodhead could hang around as the #6 receiver, if they show they can become a core player on the various special teams units.

Overall, this further demonstrates how the Jets are all in when it comes to winning a Super Bowl this season. They are hesitant to risk a young player being their #3 receiver for four games, so they are going out to add a solid veteran, who has always been productive for the organization.

If this does happen and it sounds like it is going to…welcome back to New York, LC.

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Thoughts On Hard Knocks Preview

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Wow, I’m not sure you could watch that 15 minute preview of Hard Knocks featuring the Jets and not leave with your heart pumping out of your chest. Can a fan of a team ask for anything more than this type of access? I will tell you this if I wasn’t a Jets fan, I would hate Rex Ryan. In the preview alone, he had to piss off every single fan of every other team. You could just have Ryan talking the entire time and it would be worth watching. There hasn’t been a Jets team with this much confidence, maybe ever. I don’t think they leave a question that it is Super Bowl or bust in 2010. Who would have thought the Jets would ever be the most hyped up team in the NFL? Yet, the real question is if they can back it up. A losing season in 2010, with these type of expectations could be one of the most painful seasons in a damn painful history.

Outside of Ryan, you have to expect Nick Mangold and Bart Scott to be stealing the show on Hard Knocks.

The funniest thing I saw in the 15 minutes? Ryan running out of the tunnel in one of the Jets games, yelling “that’s right, here come the Jets” and any other clip they were showing of him wired up on the sideline.

August is going to be more entertaining than usual, buckle up.

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