The Positives Of Tim Tebow On The New York Jets

TOJ plays devil’s advocate with himself and explores the positives of Tim Tebow on the New York Jets

I haven’t been shy about expressing the potential negatives of Tim Tebow joining the New York Jets. However, no trade is ever a black and white issue. There are positive and negatives to each personnel move and this is no exception. Can this work? Absolutely but without question, the Jets are walking a fine line here between media circus, quarterback controversy and complete locker room mess. Ignoring those possibilities let’s examine why this was a smart move –

It can never hurt to add good football players to your team. Tim Tebow is a good football player. I am not sure if he is a good quarterback but that is an argument for a different day. It can also never hurt to add good people in your locker room. Tebow isn’t a cure all for the Jets locker room issues but having a person with a high character around is never a bad thing.

Tebow’s addition will benefit the Jets running game. In his perfect world, Rex Ryan would run the ball 60 times every game, never turn the football over and allow his defense to do the heavy lifting. This move brings him closer to that dream. The problem with that dream is that Ryan’s defense is no longer elite and won’t be until he finds a free safety and pass rusher. You also do need to throw the football at times because it is simply too damn hard to get points moving 3.5 yards at a time.

Yet strictly in terms of the running game, Tebow will be a great weapon in short yardage situations and should provide more lanes for Shonn Greene or Joe McKnight when he is in the game. He also has the ability to hurt teams over the top if they stack the box on him since he does throw a good deep ball.

Finally, Tebow came here with every intention of taking Mark Sanchez’s job. This acquisition is putting as much pressure as possible on Sanchez to perform. Where else does the backup quarterback have a press conference to introduce him? Where else do people await his arrival while posing in his famous stance? Sanchez has generally (outside of last year) thrived in pressure situations. There is a chance, and a bigger one than most people are acknowledging, that this move will push Sanchez to being the very good quarterback he has the potential to be.

List Of Played Out Tim Tebow/New York Jets Jokes

The following jokes about Tim Tebow and the New York Jets are already played out

It has been about 24 hours since Tim Tebow became a member of the New York Jets and the following jokes have already been played out by Twitter, Facebook and every other social media outlet available. Let’s retire them and get a little more creative, no?

– Tim Tebow better cover his ears when Rex Ryan talks! (Get it, because Rex Ryan curses a bunch and Tim Tebow doesn’t curse).

– Tim Tebow and Antonio Cromartie in the same locker room, neither support birth control but boy are they different! (Get it, because Tim Tebow is supposedly a virgin because of his religion and Antonio Cromartie has 9 kids from 8 women in 7 different states).

– Tim Tebow is a pious individual waiting to enjoy a life of monogamy, while Mark Sanchez bounces between Kate Upton (excuse to post this video), Meadow Soprano (sorry that’s always her name to me), and Hayden Panettiere (ok, that was Scotty McKnight)…(Get it, they are a regular odd couple).

– In general, any jokes about Tim Tebow being a good, religious dude and the Jets being a raucous group of vice loving maniacs.

– The circus analogies and puns.

– And of course, the jokes about the Jets having not one…but two quarterbacks who can’t complete a pass…Hey Buffalo, Miami, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Oakland, Kansas City, Houston, Indy, Jacksonville, Washington, Dallas, Chicago, Detroit, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta, St. Louis, Seattle, San Francisco, and Arizona…we have not one, but two quarterback who have the same amount of playoff wins, if not more than your current quarterback…so

TOJ Roundtable: Tebow, Tebow, Tebow And The Jets

The TOJ writers discuss the pros and cons of the Tim Tebow trade

An emergency calling of the roundtable to discuss the pros and cons of the Tim Tebow trade to the New York Jets. I am going to sit this one out, as I wrote about 5,000 words on it yesterday and have plenty more on the way today.

Chris Gross: First, let’s look at why this could be viewed as an idiotic move by Mike Tannenbaum and Rex Ryan. The Jets have been portrayed as a circus since the public meltdown after last season’s loss to Miami in week 17. There is a great scare that Tim Tebow, and the massive amount of publicity that he receives, will only add to the zoo that has become the New York Jets.

There is also the fear that Tebow’s presence will cause a split between players and fans if Mark Sanchez begins to struggle. The assumption here is based on how the fans and players of the Denver Broncos pushed for Tebow to take over for Kyle Orton after he got off to a shaky start last season. However, the fact of the matter is Kyle Orton is not Mark Sanchez. In his seven seasons in the NFL, Orton has never won a playoff game. In three seasons, Sanchez has won 4 postseason games, all on the road mind you. There is no question that Mark Sanchez, who was just given a three-year contract extension, is the starting quarterback for the New York Jets. Tebow is not being brought in here to challenge Sanchez for that title, regardless of what the so-called experts in the media say. Instead, Tebow will serve as a very useful weapon in Tony Sparano’s arsenal, regardless of what capacity that may end up being.

Sanchez will not feel threatened by Tim Tebow. Regardless of what people say, Sanchez is not fragile. He has taken more scrutiny and physical beatings on the field (Hello Wayne Hunter) in his first three seasons combined than some quarterbacks face in their entire career. Tebow was not brought to the Jets to take Sanchez’s job. He was brought to New York to help the Jets win, and that is exactly what he is going to do.

Anyone who is a fan of football has grown to know Tim Tebow as many things. He is super competitive, he is a winner, and most of all, he is a team player. It is understandable that fans view this move by the Jets as an acquisition of a glorified role player. However, if Sparano uses him correctly, Tebow will serve as much more than a Wildcat quarterback. At 6’3” 245 pounds, there is so much flexibility to how Tebow can be used.

Tebow will dedicate everything he has and fulfill that role to the best of his ability, which he has shown to be extremely high. He is certainly one of the hardest working, most determined players in the NFL, and on top of that he wants to win more than anything.

Matt Fritz: Tough for me to even try to give positives out of getting Tim Tebow from the Broncos since I have been a Tebow hater all along, but I’ll do my best. In all honesty, if the reason we got Tim Tebow is for what I truly believe it to be, then I cannot fault the Jets on this decision entirely. Just after giving Mark Sanchez an extension, do you really think the Jets are thinking of making Tebow their every down quarterback? No, the Jets reached out and got Tim Tebow because they feel as though it will make their offense that much better. Tebow will most likely get somewhere around 10-12 snaps a game, all primarily out of the wildcat, and could be a nice change of pace in the Jets offense, much like Brad Smith was two years ago.

This is ultimately how I would like the Jets to go about handling Tim Tebow in the Jets offense next season. Whether they use him like that or not we will just have to wait and find out. In the end, as much as I despise this trade, I will admit three things about Tim Tebow that there are no denying. He is a winner, he is tough, and he’s got God on his side.

We all know it’s the same song and dance. Mark comes out in the first game next year and throws two picks, and the whole New York Media and Jet fan base are calling for Tim Tebow to take over . This is ultimately my biggest fear out of all of this mess. Obviously the talk has been that Mark needs to feel some pressure behind him at the QB position, but he doesn’t need to feel like he has to be perfect. On top of that, I just don’t think that Tim Tebow is a very good quarterback. Do I think he is a tremendous athlete? Yes. Do I think he is extraordinarily tough? Absolutely. Do I think he is a winner? He’s proven that.  It’s just that if Jet fans are calling for a switch from Sanchez to Tebow next year, there just simply won’t be an upgrade.

Rob Celletti: I have a lot swirling in my mind right now, so I’m unable to really lay things out in a pro/con fashion.  I will just say that I think this is one of the worst personnel decisions that the Jets have made in the history of their franchise, for two reasons:

1) The Jets have proven that selling Tebow jerseys and PSLs are ahead of winning football games on their list of priorities.  And to send Mike Tannenbaum out there to basically lie about the main motivation for this move to the media is tantamount to spitting in the faces of the intelligent members of the Jets fanbase.  This move insults me, which brings me to…

2) If it insults me, how do you think Mark Sanchez feels right now?  What’s worse, what happens when Sanchez plays merely a mediocre half at MetLife Stadium and the Jets find themselves trailing by 7 or 10 points?  I was in the old building when people literally cheered when Chad Pennington was injured.  This is one of the most brutal fanbases in sports.  The “We Want Tebow!” chant will be deafening.  And it will be the death knell to Mark Sanchez’s career as a Jet.

Some people claim that this won’t/shouldn’t affect Sanchez.  They have to be kidding.  Did they witness what occurred last year?  Throw in Rex Ryan, Santonio Holmes and however many “unnamed players”, and the 2012 circus could make 2011 look like the Monmouth County fair.

I won’t even touch upon the 8 other positions the Jets should have prioritized over gimmick/backup/wildcat quarterback.  I’m just too upset.  All I know is that being born into Jets fandom is something that will test my love of sports for as long as I walk this earth. I’m sure I’ll eventually come around to Tebow, and learn to grin and bear it, but all I can say is that being a Jets fan is extremely difficult for me right now.

Tim Tebow Trade Becomes Official

The New York Jets trade for Tim Tebow has become official. Thoughts on Jets press conference announcing his arrival

The New York Jets trade for Tim Tebow became official tonight after a nearly 8 hour back and forth over how much his future guaranteed salary would be paid by the team. It was finalized at 2.5 million, an awfully high amount to pay a backup who is supposed to be a situational player especially when you are lacking a right tackle and free safety…but that is for another day.

It is being reported by Chris Mortensen that Tebow had a choice between the Jets and Jacksonville and chose to come to New York. This is obviously an admirable move, although the validity of the report is being questioned by some. If it is true, Tebow showed that he is a competitor and instead of taking the easy road in irrelevant Jacksonville, he wanted to come to the world’s largest media market to a team who is closer to being a contender.

That being said, I still feel the same way I did this afternoon about the trade. I don’t like it for the Jets as an organization but that doesn’t mean I won’t root for Tebow to perform when he is on the field. I respect him as a competitor and athlete, so welcome to New York…

Here are a few important nuggets from Tannenbaum’s conference call tonight –

– Tim Tebow is the number two quarterback. Both him and Sanchez have been made aware of that. Tebow will featured in certain packages (Wildcat) – Look for either Drew Stanton or Greg McElroy to be moved soon. This is also answers the depth chart question from before but doesn’t solve the problem of bouncing between two offenses.

– He insisted Jets didn’t misread contract, there was just ongoing disagreement with Denver about how compensation would work. – All semantics now. Bottom line is you are paying 2.5 million for another quarterback when you have other holes.

– The line of the off-season from the Jets organization will be “Every quarterback has a backup” – Different type of beast with Tebow in town.

Roundtable and more analysis coming tomorrow…

TOJ Analysis Of Tim Tebow Trade

TOJ with thoughts on the unthinkable, Tim Tebow is now on the New York Jets

Well, it has happened. The New York Jets, masters of the media spectacle, have traded for Tim Tebow. They gave up a 4th and 6th round pick and received a 7th rounder back from Denver as part of the deal. I was about as clear as possible that I wasn’t in support of this move prior to it happening but it has happened. I root for the laundry folks, just like you should and would never root against an individual player just to make my thoughts on a trade look right. That being said, let’s review what this move means –

1. Whether you want to admit it or not, a huge reason for this deal was to grab headlines back from the New York Giants, who get their headlines…by you know, winning Super Bowls. It brings attention to the organization and demonstrates them working to improve their character in the locker room. I am all for improving the character of the team but this trade is going to lead to locker room issues. It is also somewhat embarrassing to constantly be making knee jerk reaction trades after every Giants Super Bowl victory. We all remember how Brett Favre worked out in 2008.

2. What locker room issues you ask? The constant quarterback debate hanging over the head of every player and coach in the organization. When you have two quarterbacks, you often have zero. Imagine if this team starts out 0-1 and Sanchez has an average performance? The first question to every coach and player will be, should the team start Tebow and play him full time? Very rarely do you see teams succeed in that type of environment.

3. We don’t know what Tebow’s exact role/spot on the depth chart is going to be. This might sound like a silly statement but think about it. Is the team going to cut Drew Stanton, who they just signed and make Tebow the number two? If you make Tebow the number three quarterback, there are rules about when you could use him in the game. Are they going to list him at a different position and use him specifically just for the Wildcat? Now you have one less running back or receiver active for a player who could play 5-6 snaps and doesn’t play special teams.

You might laugh at the above comment about Stanton but Tebow is going to run a completely different offense than Sanchez. You need a backup who can run the offense as it is normally installed, not the speed option. It is a completely different game when Tebow goes in, different plays, different blocking schemes…different everything. Tebow can’t be a traditional backup and just hop into a normal offense. We saw what happened when he did that against Detroit last season.

You are now splitting up your practice time to learn basically two offenses, which in a way is a nice weapon, but in reality takes away from both because you aren’t giving all your focus to one.

4. I am no way near as concerned about Sanchez’s psyche as many people are. He has been playing quarterback in New York for three years. I think he is mentally tougher than people give him credit for. From a practical on field standpoint, continually pulling him out of the game for the Wildcat is going to interrupt his rhythm but from a mental standpoint, if he can’t handle the Tebow trade he shouldn’t be here anyway. Ideally, this trade will push him to reach his potential but that could be wishful thinking with the type of circus Tebow brings to town.

5. Do you have any doubt about the Jets desire to run the football? Rex Ryan and Tony Sparano clearly have their mindset on being one of the most run heavy teams in the league, if not the most run heavy. I wouldn’t expect to see the Jets sign another receiver in free agency or draft one before the 5th round.

6. By the way, the Jets still need a right tackle…in case you forgot. Buffalo just signed Mark Anderson to pair with Mario Williams, Anderson had 10 sacks last season…4 more than any player on the Jets.

7. Can this work? Sure. I am not going to sit here and be naive enough to act like there aren’t positives to this trade just because I don’t like it overall. First off, Tebow is a leader and a winner. He is a good presence to have in the locker room. He shouldn’t just push Sanchez on the field, he should push Sanchez in the locker room, meeting room and everywhere else. Second, if designed properly the Jets should have a very strong rushing attack…particularly in short yardage. Third, Tebow can hurt teams over the top if they stack the box on the Jets Wildcat. He can throw the deep ball…nothing else…but can throw the deep ball. Fourth, just about every member of the mainstream media has written this off as an idiotic trade, which makes it more enjoyable to root for as a Jets fan.

New York Jets Exploring Running Back Market

The New York Jets are showing interest in free agent running backs, but they should be considering swinging a trade

With most of the focus on the New York Jets improving the secondary by adding LaRon Landry and potentially signing another safety, there have been some rumblings about the team looking to boost their depth chart at running back.

By the way, Wayne Hunter and Vladimir Ducasse are currently the Jets top two right tackles. I just needed to remind everybody of that…now back to the article.

Anyway, the Jets have expressed interest in BenJarvus Green-Ellis and there are rumors they could have interest in Michael Bush. Both are intriguing as they would signal an attempt to return to the “Thunder/Thunder” approach of Thomas Jones and Shonn Greene during the 2009 season. Both running backs were considered top tier free agents at their position but have seen lukewarm interest so far. Bush is a bruiser, who is a quality receiver out of the backfield who is coming off his best season and Green-Ellis, as we know plenty well, is a solid, not spectacular back who never fumbles the football…literally.

A more intriguing option has presented itself with the Carolina Panthers signing running back Mike Tolbert. The Panthers were already well positioned at running back with DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, so the Tolbert signing has led to speculation that either Williams or Stewart could be traded.

Carolina would love to move Williams and the asinine contract they signed him to last year. However, nobody will be taking it on unless he agrees to restructure. Stewart on the other hand has one year left on his rookie deal and it is hard to picture any scenario where they will have the money to re-sign him after how much they spent on Williams and now on Tolbert. So, why not move him now and get compensation for him?

Stewart is coming off a season where he racked up 761 rushing yards at 5.4 yards per carry and 47 receptions for 413 yards. He is an explosive playmaker who would make a terrific combination with Shonn Greene. If I am Mike Tannenbaum I am embracing my trading roots and offering Carolina a 3rd and 5th round pick for him. If that offer doesn’t satisfy them, I’d be willing to move up to a 2nd rounder this year and a conditional 5th rounder next year.

Bush and Green-Ellis are nice role players. Stewart has the ability to be a star in Tony Sparano’s run heavy system. Tannenbaum traded for a running back in 2007 in Thomas Jones who piled up 28 touchdowns and 3,833 rushing yards in three seasons. Stewart is capable of that type of production.

New York Jets Sign Wide Receiver Chaz Schilens

TOJ with thoughts on the New York Jets signing wide receiver Chaz Schilens

UPDATE: The deal is for one year, $765,000 with $500,000 guaranteed. It is impossible to criticize the deal at this cost. It is cheap enough where another player, like a Jerricho Cotchery for example, could still come in with a viable chance to compete for the starting job. This is the type of money you pay to a player who will compete with 1 to 2 other people to be a starter.

The New York Jets made their second signing of the day by bringing in wide receiver Chaz Schilens. This has been expected for the past couple of days as the Jets have shown interest in him since free agency opened. Schilens played for new wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal in Oakland and while his signing likely won’t be popular with many fans, it has the potential to be a wise move.

The financials on his contract haven’t been released yet but you would hope the Jets signed him to a low cost, incentive laden deal. Schilens has had major durability issues his entire NFL career, missing 13 games between the 2009 and 2010 season. In four seasons for the Raiders, Schilens has 72 receptions, 902 yards and 7 touchdowns. Last year, as primarily a backup he finished with 23 receptions, 271 yards and 2 touchdowns.

What is good about Schilens is that he has the physical tools. He is 6-4, 225 pounds and ran under a 4.4 forty yard dash before he entered the league. The potential is there for him to be this season’s Laurent Robinson, a guy who breaks out because he finally stays healthy and is in the right circumstance, without having to hand out the ridiculous contract that Jacksonville just did to him. The risk is that he won’t be able to stay healthy and could end up being Matthew Hatchette 2.0 for the Jets.

The Jets have signed Schilens with the intention of giving him the opportunity to start opposite of Santonio Holmes. Yet, I would expect the Jets to still strongly consider drafting a receiver in one of the earlier rounds to throw into the mix and maybe sign another veteran.

New York Jets: Quick Defense Of Drew Stanton Signing

TOJ promises you will feel better about the Drew Stanton signing after reading this

I know you aren’t excited about the Drew Stanton signing New York Jets fans so let me play a quick Devil’s Advocate.

First off, he is a substantial upgrade over Mark Brunell. Second, he was signed to a one year with the expectation that Greg McElroy will be ready to take over the #2 spot in 2013. Third, Stanton’s career numbers aren’t impressive but that is thanks to an ugly 2009. He improved in 2010 and actually put together a quality year off the bench. In three starts and three relief appearances, he ended up with 780 passing yards, 58.0 completion percentage, 4 touchdowns, 3 interceptions, and a rushing touchdown.

In 2010, he came off the bench against the Giants and threw for 222 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception in the Meadowlands. He beat the eventual Super Bowl Champion Packers 7-3 in a late season start and then got the Lions their first road win in 3 years by beating a 10 win Tampa Bay team in their stadium. Here is his stat line for his 3 starts in 2010 –

  • Home vs. Chicago – 16/24, 178 yards, 1 TD – Loss 24-20
  • Home vs. Green Bay – 10/22, 177 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs – Win 7-3
  • At Tampa Bay – 23/37, 252 yards, 1 TD – Win 23-20

Beyond that…the guy can dance.

New York Jets: What Moves Are On The Horizon?

After two days of free agency, TOJ looks at what the New York Jets likely have up their sleeve

It continues to be a quiet start for the New York Jets in free agency and with the action surrounding them, a few things have become clear. Overall, this is going to be a more restrained approach than in recent years but that doesn’t mean a big splash won’t be on the way in the coming month.

At wide receiver, it is clear the Jets never had any interest in spending big time money opposite Santonio Holmes. It makes sense when you look at the coordinator they hired and how much guaranteed money they are giving Holmes this year and next year. We suspected this would be case as the Jets are now bargain hunting to fill out their wide receiver depth chart. I anticipate them signing Chaz Schilens. He is comfortable with Sanjay Lal as his receiver coach and the Jets will give him a legitimate chance to start. Personally, I don’t think this is enough support at wide receiver for Mark Sanchez and the team should still consider checking out Braylon Edwards in May to make sure his knee is healthy. Jerricho Cotchery won’t come here unless the team is going to give him a legitimate chance to be the starter, which I’m not sure they will.

If the Jets are going to spend big money in free agency, it will be at the safety position. Look for them to make a strong push to get either Reggie Nelson or LaRon Landry in the coming few days. After hopefully signing one of them, I would expect them to bring back Jim Leonhard on a veteran’s minimum within a few months and then still add a safety in one of the early rounds of the draft.

We haven’t heard of the Jets looking to spend anywhere else in free agency outside of backup quarterback, where they will probably sign Drew Stanton. A move that will rightfully be questioned by many. David Garrard or Josh Johnson would provide a more legitimate threat to Sanchez in the number two spot than Stanton.

So what about tackle, linebacker, and running back? For whatever reason the Jets appear to be passing on many of the quality free agent right tackles. I don’t know if that is because they have a gentleman’s agreement with Vernon Carey to join the team in a few weeks or because they are really hard headed enough to think Wayne Hunter or Vladimir Ducasse could start next year. At linebacker, unless they make a push toward Jameel McClain, they appear to be standing pat and we haven’t heard anything about a Ronnie Brown signing being imminent yet at running back.

What you do need to remember is that the draft is a little over a month away and the Jets are going to have 10-12 picks. Don’t be surprised to see a very active few days from Mike Tannenbaum in terms of sliding up and down the board, along with looking to fill holes by trading picks for veteran players. This could very well be a situation where fans are in an uproar until draft weekend comes, and then it becomes much clearer what the Jets were looking to do this off-season. They have enough picks and assets to patch up linebacker, tackle, and running back in that weekend.

Don’t forget Mike Tannenbaum’s history when it comes to trades.

New York Jets Free Agent Activity Picking Up

The activity around the New York Jets in free agency is starting to pick up

The news around the New York Jets in free agency is starting to pick up a little bit. Let’s go over what we have learned so far today about the direction the team could be heading in –

1. Folk Back – The team has re-signed kicker Nick Folk, who has been inconsistent in his two years with the team. They are expected to bring in competition for him in training camp. There is also chatter they could draft a kicker in the later rounds, as special teams coach Mike Westhoff said this is the best class of kickers and punters he has seen in years.

2. Cotchery Back? Schilens Close? – The Jets have expressed interest in bringing wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery back. However, they will be competing with the Steelers for his services who also want him back after his one year stint with the team. Chaz Schilens is expected to visit the team tonight and apparently the team is high enough on him that they see him as a potential #2 receiver opposite Santonio Holmes.

Personally, I’d take Cotchery over Schilens as a number two receiver any day of the week. Look at Schilens’ career and try to argue otherwise. Obviously, at this stage of his career Cotchery is better fitted as a number three or a part time player but it appears the Jets are looking to go cheap at wide receiver in free agency and if they do, take Cotchery over Schilens.

3. Quiet At Linebacker/Offensive Line – The San Diego Chargers signed OLB Jarret Johnson, a player the Jets were rumored to be interested in. The Jets never made any formal inquiries about bringing Johnson in for a visit. It appears they will let Bryan Thomas mentor whatever outside linebacker they add early in the draft. They have to add one early in the draft, right?

We still haven’t heard a thing about the Jets inquiring about any offensive lineman. Are they confident about getting Vernon Carey to join his former coach, Tony Sparano? Or are they really considering going into the year with Wayne Hunter and Vladimir Ducasse competing at right tackle as Mario Williams takes a physical in Buffalo?