New York Jets Victory Monday – GIF Dump, Week 13

Joe Caporoso with a week 13 victory GIF Dump for the New York Jets and a few words on the success of the rookie coaching staff so far in 2015

Another week. Another win. Another New York Jets GIF Dump. We kick off this week’s edition with a few words on the Jets coaching staff…

Like any Head Coach, Todd Bowles has had his ups and downs this season. However with 12 games in the book, only two of the seven coaches who are debuting with a new team this season have a winning record: Bowles and Gary Kubiak of the Denver Broncos. Kubiak inherited a 12-4 team, Bowles inherited a 4-12 team. A good sign for any coaching staff is the player’s rate of production comparatively to the rest of their career. These signs are good for Bowles and his assembled staff in year one.

Ryan Fitzpatrick is in his 11th season. He has never won more than 6 starts in a single year but has already exceeded that in 2015 and is pacing for his best statistical year ever with career highs in touchdown passes, quarterback rating and yards per attempt in a full season all on the table. Brandon Marshall needs 3 touchdowns for a single season career high. With a strong finish, Eric Decker is also likely looking at a season that will belong in the discussion for his best yet in the NFL.

Bilal Powell will break a career high in receiving yards and receptions, despite missing multiple games. Chris Ivory has already broke his career high in receiving yards, receptions, touchdowns, total offensive yards and will break his career high in rushing yards. Quincy Enunwa went from an afterthought in 2014, to a critical blocker on the edge and an improving pass catcher from the H-Back position. Tommy Bohanon has went from borderline useless to a competent fullback. James Carpenter is having his most consistent season as a starter.

Defensively, Calvin Pryor is flourishing as a weekly playmaker who is all over the field. Marcus Williams has fully came into his own and Marcus Gilchrist has substantially improved from last season in San Diego. Mike Catapano went from a practice squader to a valuable pass rusher. Rontez Miles went from a practice squader to a valuable sub player in the secondary. Muhammad Wilkerson is on track to have a career high in sacks and David Harris is playing better than he has in years.

This coaching staff hasn’t been perfect (have you seen the special teams?) but it is hard not to be encouraged with the output through 12 games…

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Author: Joe Caporoso

Joe Caporoso is the Owner and EIC of Turn On The Jets. His writing has been featured in the New York Times, Huffington Post, MMQB and AdWeek. Caporoso played football his entire life, including four years at Muhlenberg as a wide receiver, where he was arguably the slowest receiver to ever start in school history. He is the VP of Social Media at Whistle Sports

  • VonDarkmoor

    Great GIF dump and analysis as usual Joe. One bone to pick though. Not to disparage coach Bowles, but when you say he inherited a 4-12 team yet say nothing of the massive talent upgrade over the prior year’s team which he also inherited, you are not being as objective as you should.

  • RONBO19

    VanDarkmoor, The talent upgrade is a fact but under Bowels some younger players like Pryor, Enunwa, and even Winters are playing better or at least contributing. Under Rex they were buried on the bench or practice squad. No question Revis is an upgrade over any corner we had but he is not the Revis of old. The two big pluses are Fitz over Geno and Marshall. Winters over Aboushi? (they both stink!) I think the improvement is a combination of better over all coaching as many of Rex’s assistants like Sanjay Lal were awful, better talent at some key positions and a very easy schedule (our opponents to date are a combined 52-55 and the last four are currently 22-23 so if we are honest with our selves we have been fortunate in that regard..

  • DJ K

    VonDarmoor objectively speaking, Marshall, Decker, Ivory, Pryor, Wilkerson, Enunwa, Powel, Fitz, Bohannan, and Marcus Williams are all having the best years of their careers. Coincidence?

  • RONBO19

    Joe, great gif’s as usual. One bone to pick is Bohanon. I’m thinking you got caught up in the euphoria of this win because he still stinks. PFF currently lists him once again at the bottom of their rankings. I know your completely familiar with their stuff so when you see the top guy DiMarco rated over all at 87.1 Vs Bohanons 36 score its clear the difference is dramatic. Even the #10 guy N.Whitlock of the Giants is rated much higher at 61.0. I have looked for signs that he might be getting better but in watching him each week he gets blown up at the point of contact almost every play on run plays. He collides with the opponent and goes backwards. He rarely moves anybody out of the hole which is why we struggle in short yardage situations. His pass blocking is not much (if any better as he grades out poorly there as well. From what I have seen, the only thing he can do is catch an occasional screen and run a few yards until he is caught from behind by a 350 LB. D-lineman. LOL!, sorry,couldn’t resist that one.

  • Joey

    yeah spot on, Bowles did not inherit 4-12 talent.

  • JetOrange

    Accurate assessment.

  • Addage

    Actually, he did inherit 4-12 talent. McCagnan added Revis, Carpenter, Cro and Marshall. That’s why Jets can be coached to be a near or actual playoff record.

  • Joey

    Semantics, you got the point. This team is vastly superior in talent compared to the last 3 seasons in Jet land.

  • RONBO19

    DJK, Agree on all but Bohanon. He’s still awful. See his PFF ratings!

  • RONBO19

    Thanks buddy. Kind of a no brainer though!

  • John Hunter

    Even if this is a fact……..so freak’n what. Stop trying to use it to take shots at our new and IMPROVED Head Coach.

    In Macc & Bowles We Trust…..the hell with Idzik & Rex!

  • JetOrange

    Further agree on your comment on Bohannon. It will be interesting to see how the,Jets rebuild the TE and Fullback positions in the off season.

  • VonDarkmoor

    Ronbo, You seem to be supporting most of what I said in my original post. It cannot be overstated what an upgrade Fitz over Geno has been, throw in Marshall, who makes Decker better, and all the secondary help they brought in, even if Revis isn’t what he once was he is unquestionably a top tier NFL corner. Throw an easy schedule in the mix, and can you honestly say Rex would be any worse than where we are now? Can you objectively tell me that the coach managed to bring us to 2 consecutive AFC championship games would not be doing just fine with this talent? Come on.

  • VonDarkmoor

    Prior had to play out of position last year because they were decimated in the secondary. They were bringing guys in off the street every week it seemed. And when you have a QB capable of accurate downfield passing without throwing pick sixes to put the team behind, it makes most of the offensive talent better as well.

  • RONBO19

    John, Amen Brother. Rex inherited a tremendously talented Buffalo team with a ton of high draft picks at WR, OL, DL, CB, and also got the top FA TE and more help along the O-line and secondary. And yet the Bills look worse than they did last year under a coach they hated! Really, the Bills are the new Jets as they commit the same bone headed penalty’s at the most inopportune times like Rex’s Jets, they also blow time outs like they are going out of style and mis- manage the clock like us under Rex. No question Bowels has had his share of similar problems but he’s a rookie HC! Not a guy who had 6 years to figure it all out and got fired because he couldn’t.

  • RONBO19

    VonDarkmoore, yes for the most part I agree. The talent is better. What I’m unsure of is where we would be with Geno vs. Fitz. I get the haters as Geno is probably the most polarizing player since Santonio Holmes. On the other hand, he played well the last four games last season and obviously that Miami game was exceptional. In his one appearance this season he put up 265 yards in 3 1/2 Qtr.s with 2 TD’s that should have been 4 TD’s had Marshall not dropped two in or near the end zone. As for Rex’s first two years here, there was some excellent talent (like Buffalo this year) here when he arrived and you as well as I know we backed in to the playoffs that year when Payton Manning did not play that last game and we faced a QB that was totally unqualified to be on an NFL field. As soon as Rex got more control of the roster stuff started to go down hill. Like Joey, who is Rex’s biggest supporter I know I’m never going to convince you on this subject but that’s cool! I respect your opinion as your obviously a bright guy and you made some excellent points. But if you read my comments to John below you can pretty much know I’m never going to agree that Rex could do as well so we will simply agree to disagree and end this discussion as new friends that support out team!

  • RONBO19

    Thanks again. Another chippie! LOL!

  • mike

    remember a few months ago when a reserve linebacker slugged the franchise’s top qb (at the time), taking him out for the whole preseason and at least the first quarter of the regular season? those two guys came up under rex, and rex’s locker rooms were like that. he was such a braggart himself, why would anything more be expected from his players? remember a few years back when he got a backup o-lineman to pick a fight during practice with an underperforming d-lineman because he thought it would be good motivation? how about the time kyle wilson committed four consecutive penalties (including two personal fouls) against the bills, and was only benched for a couple of series so he could cool off? remember how many god damn times his teams couldn’t even get the right number of guys on the field?
    the jury’s still out on bowles as far as i’m concerned, because the jets still don’t have a win against a team that’s currently over .500. that said, it’s kind of obtuse to pretend like there isn’t an obvious improvement in the team’s discipline, focus, and accountability under the new regime.

  • John Hunter

    Excellent work J C!

    I could’ve used another Powell highlight tho, he was fantastic.

  • VonDarkmoor

    Ronbo, thanks for your kind words. I appreciate your opinion especially since much of what you said was backed up with sound logic and facts. Go Jets!

  • John C

    Watching the Gif of the pick, who was the defender that ended up at Eli’s feet, after coming free up the middle on the pass rush? It appears to me, that he kept Manning from throwing to Tye, who was backing up the defender at the goal line, on the hash marks. It looks like Manning peeked that way, saw the guy about to nail him, and threw it quickly back to his right, and right into double coverage. I really think Coughlin blew the call, and should have kicked the FG, but Manning made a bad decision on the play as well.

  • John C

    Ron, Funny, I was going to say the same thing regarding Bohannon (and Joe’s upgrading of him to competent). I’m on Cloud 9 today too, but not that high!

  • John C

    I’m with you John – Yes Bowles has better talent, but that is partially Rex’s fault, and I really don’t think Rex would have coached this team to 7-5.

  • John C

    If you think about it, they actually need Amaro back, and, another true, starting quality, Tight End. Otherwise, they are another Amaro injury away from the same position they are in this year. They should not even have a FB, unless he is truly a difference maker (and there aren’t many of them). They need a “scat back” more than they need a Fullback.

  • JetOrange

    Couple of assumptions. Cumberland and Davis will be cut. The Jets will not spend big money in FA for a TE, and will not use a premium draft pick (1-3 ). The Jets have to run the ball. Amaro and Sudfield start out as your TE’s, IMHO Amaro with his tiny child like hands, is not tough enough or blocks well enough for Chans offense, Sudfield is always hurt, but he could be the guy. Ronbo points out that Bohannon’s PFF rating is poor, beyond that he is a soft player, just an average special teamer. The Jets need a little Smash Mouth to,balance their offense, but you are correct you need a Fullback that can make a difference. Fullback is a part time position for any team, the best alternative is,a fullback that can also work as a TE. The answer is outside the organization, but Julian Howsare could be an alternative as a Fullback next year, he would also have to be a stud on ST. Since Howsare is an OLB he could be a pass rusher in sub packages.

  • RONBO19

    John C, yeah, we want him to improve but that’s simply not happening! He was projected as undraftable or as an undrafted F/A so what the heck Izzy was thinking about I have no idea?

  • RONBO19

    VonDarkmoore, Thanks, glad to meet you! Good chat!

  • RONBO19

    John C, yeah, we especially don’t need this fullback! LOL!,Soprry, couldn’t resist!

  • RONBO19

    J/O, for the life of me I have no idea why Howsare is not on the active roster instead of Busthanon? Howsare would be much better on special teams, he’s a frigg’n animal as a blocker and he had a ton of sacks in college. Granted Clarion is not Ohio St. but physicality is a requirement at FB and our powder puff Busthanon hasn’t blocked anybody all year.

  • jsadolph

    Wasn’t Bohannon going to school with Idzik’s son?

  • RONBO19

    Yeah, and Rex’s son was at Clemson so we wasted a 6th round pick on him too!

  • JetOrange

    Howsare is a much better athlete, I thought he blocked well in the pre season and he hit people, better than Mr. Softee, Bohannon. He has to be better on ST, and could be a situational Pass Rusher. Please don’t laugh , but I think another candidate is Mike Catapano (probably headed to IR ) . Once again he is a better athlete, was a dominant Fullback in High School, at 6-3 280 4.7 could be a road grader, and as John C. Remarks a difference maker, like my Smash mouth .Shows promise as a situational pass rusher ( first sack) and replaces Douzable on ST as a wedge buster.

  • jsadolph

    Just looking back at that 2014 draft. It looks bad.
    Rd1 – Calvin Pryor
    Rd2 – Jace Amaro
    Rd3 – Dex McDougle
    Rd4 – Jalen Saunders
    Rd4 – Shaq Evans
    Rd5 – Jeremiah George
    Rd6 – Brandon Dixon
    Rd6 – Quincy Enunwa
    Rd6 – IK
    Rd7 – Trevor Reilly
    Pryor is coming around. Jace is close to a bust. Dex isn’t being used. Enunwa is coming around. IK saved our season before getting kicked off the team. Reilly is a good depth player.
    It’s like Idzik only liked 6th Rd or worse players. He could only bargain shop.

  • DJ K

    Lets just beat the bag out of the lowly Titans, and Cowboys. And worry about our 9-5 jets hosting the 11-3 Patriots.

  • jsadolph

    Opps, I was going to look at the 2013 draft. Other than Seldon it’s not much beter.
    Rd1 – Dee Milner
    Rd1 – Sheldon Richardson
    Rd2 – Geno
    Rd3 – Brian Winters
    Rd4 – Traded for Ivory
    Rd5 – Oday Aboushi
    Rd6 – William Cambell
    Rd7 – Tommy Bohanon
    Dee was an injury prone, highly talented player and still is. Sheldon is an extremely talented knucklehead. Geno was a reach. Winters is starting only out of desparation. Oday is not on the team anymore. Cambell who?? Tommy is waiting on his release papers.

  • jsadolph

    We haven’t had a good Rd2 pick since ’07 with David Harris.

  • RONBO19

    jsadolph, excellent post. Spot on. The thing that I found particularly frustrating was the fact that especially in 2014 Izzy tried to reinvent the wheel. There were 27 WR’s drafted in that class and we got the only three that to date are either out of the league or that have made little to no impact here or elsewhere. Enunwa has potential but in comparison to others drafted elsewhere his contributions are minimal at best.Drafting a 5-10 219 Lb. MLB on a team that plays a base 3-4 was mind boggling. Drafting a box S so high was mindless. They are a dime a dozen and we already had one in Antonio Allen? Like Miliner the year before Mcdougle was coming off a second serious shoulder injury that required surgery and he was not ready to go in the OTA’s and mini camps. Drafting a 6-1 270 college DE who ran a brutally slow 40 at his pro day and assuming we could convert him to play OLB in the NFL was another head scratcher?

  • JetOrange

    As one of the resident Jet apologists, let me say that Chan was putting in a new Offense, the jump from Clarion, and moving from defense to offense, just too much green. Required Chan to invest long term, we,would be better off today, but he saw risk in Howsare in the first half of the season, understandable. To Gailey’s credit he invested in Enuwa and Devin,Smith, I think those investments will pan out down the stretch.

  • RONBO19

    JSadolph, and that’s exactly what’s killing us now! This roster has little to no depth at almost every position. Considering how bad we were last season, its amazing to think that CB might be our deepest position today?(thank you Mac!). And QB might be #2? After drafting 4 WR’s over the last 2 years one would think that might be a position of strength but Smith is so far from a finished product he’s barely playing. Other than last week he’s had little positive impact when he does play. Enunwa is also very much a wok in progress as well, and as Kerely is unable to block on run plays the coaches have pretty much made him an after thought.

  • jsadolph

    I was not as hard on Idzik for the Pryor pick. If you look at the depth of all the positions in the 2014 draft, like you said, the WR position was incredibly deep and the Safety position was extremely thin. There were only about 4 draftable Safeties in the entire draft. So to go Safety in the 1st is understandable in my book, especially if your #1 rated safety is on the board. But where Idzik dropped the ball is drafting “Baby hands” Amero that is surounded by Red Flags over literally dozens of top teir WRs still on the board.

  • jsadolph

    Our Depth is not the best yet. And after Tanny and Idzik left the copboards bare it will take a few years to get decent depth. But I also understand that there will never be great depth at all positions because the 53 man roster won’t allow it. Our depth is acceptable at CB, QB, DL and that is about it. At the beginning of the year I would have added the WR group in there, but the other than Enunwa noone has impressed. And the disappearance of Kerley is suprising. And i wish we would have known that Devin Smith couldn’t catch before we drafted him because there were many better options at WR in the 2nd.

  • JetOrange

    I was surprised by Pryor, my guy was CB Darquez Dennard or FS Ha Ha Clinton Dix, but I do not think that Rex would ever take a FS. My receiver was Donte Moncrief in the second, the Jets passed on him in the second, I had a meltdown when they passed on him in the third.. We had two shots at Martavius Bryant in the fourth, it was a chalk pick, I needed serious medication at the time.

  • jsadolph

    Same here. I wasn’t as high on Dennard so I didn’t mind passing on him. Pryor and Ha-Ha was a coin flip to me. I would have LOVED Moncrief or Bryant.
    But I was the same this year with La’el Collins. I was so mad that we are in need of a dominant O-lineman and he slipped trough the draft. I would have called his agents bluff and took a 4th-7th rd flier on him. I don’t really think Collins would have held out.
    Just think where our line would be if we had guards of Carpenter and Collins. Fitz would never get dirty.

  • RONBO19

    jsadolph, we all know the draft is a crap shoot so there are no “locks” I am 63 years old and have followed the draft closely since I was about 10 so I’m pretty up on who’s who. Like most of IIzzy’s
    picks the problem I had was there were better options available at S (HaHa Clinton Dix who started and excelled as a rookie in GB.)as well as other positions of need like WR Kelvin Benjamin, OT Jawaun James, QB Teddy Bridgewater, CB Darqueze Dennard, and OLB Marcus Smith who has done well as an edge rusher in Philly. All of these guys made immediate impacts as rookies and we all know Pryor struggled and pretty much looked lost. He’s made progress but all of those players are much higher rated at their positions even now so that pick was questionable to say the least.

  • RONBO19

    J/O, hysterical bro! But spot on!

  • RONBO19

    Jsadolph, its not that Smith cant catch as much as his unwillingness to absorb contact that is troubling. I read alot about him leading up to the draft and apparently his ridiculous 28 YPC avg. was more because he completely refused to participate in the short to intermediate passing game. Gil Brandt of XM Serious Radio NFL channel said the coaching staff got fed up trying to get him more involved in that area of the field to help him diversify his game. The NFL networks Daniel Jeremiah also questioned his heart and after watching him get shoved around running patterns I think there was a lot of truth to those observations. If you think back to the first couple of games, he had several long passes come his way and his effort to make a play was suspect at best. He needs to get stronger, he needs to practice harder and he needs to decide if wants to be great, or just another mediocre guy collecting a mediocre paycheck?

  • jsadolph

    Oh, I’m with you. I was confused by picks 1 & 2. But I can’t pretend to know Idziks/Rex’s big board on draft day. If they liked Pryor over Ha-Ha then Pryor is the pick. I mean if you want a safety, the 1st rd was the only place to pick one because there were none available after that.
    That being said, all of the other players that you have mentioned were all seamingly safer picks and using hindsight, they were. I was screaming at the screen to get the Jets to move up into the 1st to get Teddy, but Idzik is a bargan hunter and waited for Geno. Then when we didn’t move up I knew we were taking a WR. But Idzik couldn’t resist the flawed Geno. The draft was deep with WR, but Idzik misjudged the depth and missed out on all of them. Then when he finally pulled the trigger he misfired and took Jalen and Shaq instead of Bryant.

  • JetOrange

    I think the point on Moncrief and Bryant, was that they were well known talent that was available and the Jets took a lesser player. I was sceptical about taking a GM with a scouting backround, but the primary function of a GM is to build the roster which in this league is all about evaluating talent. I didn’t think the Jets could sign La’el Collins, but it would have been great.

  • jsadolph

    I don’t think the Collins camp had any leg to stand on. His only recourse was to hold out and that would kill or almost kill his career. He might not like it, but he would eventually come to the conclusion that playing out a low rookie contract would payoff.
    You can never take an agents word at face value. La’el was there for everyone to take and for some reason we took fliers on multiple late round picks, but pass on a Top 5 pick.

  • JetOrange

    I am very nasty, and believe in conspiracies . Jerry Jones was basking in the glow of the resurgence of his Offensive Line, and I believe conspired with Collins agents to get this deal done. It is my belief that Collins agents demanded top five money, when they couldn’t get from 31 teams before the draft , they conspired with the Cowboys to do the deal.

  • jsadolph

    He still didn’t get top 5 money. But he did get more than he would have if he would have got picked in the 5th or 6th. But the only reason he had a chance to be a Rookie FA was because noone would call his bluff. I’m the type of guy that loves to call others bluff so I would have made the pick. What would it have hurt? It is not illegal to pick a draft elgible player.
    It is also a bad president to make letting a player or agent tell teams what team they will play for. It has worked for Eli and Elway. But they were picked high in the 1st, so the teams had much invested in them. But to take La’el in the 5th or 6th the team would have had all the leverage, because a 6th rd pick sitting out would not be near as big of a deal as a 1st.

  • jsadolph

    Mediocre would be an upgrade. Even if he only ran fly routes all game he would be servicable. But if he can’t catch and fight for the ball, it doesn’t matter how well he can run because he can be single covered by the other teams 3rd CB and he won’t hurt anyone.
    I guess what I am saying is that with a little strength training and improved pass catching ability his celing is a quality 4th rd pick that we took in the 2nd.

  • RONBO19

    Jsadolph, that’s another good point. I still think his ceiling is decent. Not Odell Beckham decent but certainly a faster Jericho Cotchery in his younger days. The talent is there. He has the hand eye coordination and speed. What he needs to do now is to become more competitive going for the ball.

  • RONBO19

    jsadolph, that spot on once again. Glad we hooked up for this discussion. Its nice talking to other fanatic’s that bleed green!

  • Joey

    It’s mostly Idziks fault and considering Rex coached two teams to two AFc championship games id say this team would still be around 7-5 with Rex. Hey, his Bills did come into our stadium on a short week and beat us.

  • Joey

    The Bills are 6-6 can we stop pretending they’re 3-9 or something. The Bills beat the Jets already too…

  • Joey

    I never saw any players punch another player under Rex. Those were IDZIK’S guy, not Rex’s.

  • Joey

    When Rex got to NY we had no QB, no WR’s, an aging RB and maybe 2 or 3 good pieces on the defense. What we did have is the best OL in football which certainly helped but lets stop pretending like Rex walked into a perennial superbowl roster.

  • RONBO19

    Sorry Joey but we’ve all been down this road too many times to rehash this argument. You believe what you want but Rex is an embarrassing buffoon as far as I am concerned. As for the Bills win, that game as most will agree was us beating ourselves. Your brilliant leader was out of time outs barely into the 4th quarter because his unprepared QB had to blow three time outs because his unprepared teammates had no frigg’n idea what they were doing in the huddle. Anybody who follows football knows the Bill’s are the more talented team. Good grief they beat us by a combined 79 points the last three times we played them with your boy Rex on our side. See, all we had to do was give them Rex and we cut our average deficit from 26 to 3 points? Gee, too bad we didn’t think of that sooner! LOL!

  • RONBO19

    Joey, I don’t think the QB thing is something you want to bring up. Sanchez was Rex’s hand picked boy and the first of two young QB’s to flounder under his leadership.

  • mike

    recall rex signing IK the day after we cut him and not idzik. please

  • Joey

    whether Rex hand picked Sanchez or not (he didnt, and you have no way of knowing if he did) there was still no QB when he got here which kills the thought that Rex walked into a great situation.

  • Joey

    when you continue to compare this years Jets talent to last years, you’re the one coming off as the buffoon. Sorry….

  • RONBO19

    Joey, living in the NY area the courtship of Rex and his staff with USC QB’s Mark Sanchez was well publicized. Rex took Schotty and Tannenbaum as well as most of the scouting staff to visit and work out Sanchez in California and the Jets determined he was the guy at that point. They moved up to the 5th spot in the draft to take him so yes I do know he was Rex’s pick. Tannenbaums infatuation with Rex led to many disastrous draft mistakes and as Sanchez was the only offensive player picked under Rex’s tenure that should tell you all you need to know. Rex and his defense was totally catered to. If that’s not enough, the well publicized tattoo on Rex’s wife’s ankle featured none other than Rex’s boy Mark Sanchez. Sorry Joey but your way off base on this one bro!

  • Joey

    Rex took Tannenbaum or Tannenbaum took Rex? Rex was not the GM, Im not sure what you’re not getting here. Post an article or something that backs up what you claim. Either way, it’s irrelevant to the original point. It’s like arguing the sky is blue when the point is 2+2=4. Rex and his defense may have been catered to but have you noticed that under Idzik and McCagnan where have our early picks been catered towards- the defense or offense? I’ll give you one guess. So, it looks like even with Rex having no say or not being here we still have catered to one side of the football. Looks like you’re the one off base here…

  • RONBO19

    Joey, when you once again have to resort to name calling its clear who won this debate!

  • RONBO19

    Joey, when the consensus #1 player on almost every experts draft board falls to you at pick #5 and there are no players at QB, LT or any other position of dire need I think you know you have to take that player. As for Idzik? Do you really want to use him as part of your argument? The GM the fan base fired?

  • Joey

    just calling it how i see it. you continue to act like this years roster isn’t significantly better. For your sake I hope you’re trolling or joshing or whatever because it’s passed the point of ridiculousness with you. It’s probably the best roster we’ve had in 10+years, with maybe the best WR combo we’ve ever had.

  • RONBO19

    Joey, not that you would notice but absolutely nobody ‘likes” your comments. That’s because other than one or two other delusional Rex die hard’s you are clearly in the minority with your blind loyalty to our former coach. One of the best guys on this blog “John Hunter’ has pretty much told you what he thinks of your comments and if you look at other posters here you might notice pretty much everyone paying attention agrees with me. Sorry bro, the only trolling going on here is your constant knocks towards coach Bowels.

  • John Hunter

    Last year’s roster? Absolutely. Beyond that? It’s opinionated. Rex had a crew his first 2 seasons, but as teams figured his defensive scheme out, we went from #1 to a steady drop out the top 10.

    No matter how you wanna slice this, you can’t deny the fact Rex has EARNED a reputation of NOT being a OVERALL good HC. He’s displayed extremely poor decisions, and lack of leadership of men. He’s lead by a bad example with his mouth, he’s been way too loyal to old players to a fault, he lacked the ability to discipline his team, he’s demonstrated the bad trait to be extremely stubborn, he admitted to losing the pulse of his own team (which IMO he never had), and I can go on and on but why?

    From a guy that plays Madden, I promise you, we’re not as talented as you’re trying to claim us to be. These men still needs good coaching to win. Just because we went from a roster that shouldn’t be qualified to be an NFL team to a roster that at least demands some level of respect from the opponents doesn’t mean we’re sitting on 20 Pro Bowlers with a Franchise QB.

    Revis and Cro is not the same as the 2010 Revis & Cro. Our line is not even in the same class of the 2009-2010 O line. And your props you’re giving to our WRs is being done without acknowledging we’re playing the game without a legit TE on the roster.

    I’m not sure what’s worse: your bias towards Rex or your lack of credit you want to give our rookie HC. Either way IMO you’re out of bounds.

  • Joey

    Haha, you do realize that the only reason fitzpatrick is our QB is because Geno got knocked out by another player…you do know this, right? Bowles/Mikey Mac wanted Geno as his starter, not fitzpatrick.

  • Joey

    dude, how old are you? “Likes”….really? This site is anti-rex. The writers are anti-rex. I dont expect many to agree with me. It’s like being a liberal on a conservative site, or vice-versa. Nonetheless, when there’s blatant BS being thrown around to enhance agendas, im going to call it out. The original post was about Bowles inheriting a 4-12 team, which didn’t speak to the upgrades in talent. Im not discrediting bowels- he deserves credit. I wanted Rex out. I wanted the Jets to hire Bowles. However, I believe there’s plenty of coaches, including Rex, that would have this roster at 7-5 against a soft schedule. Jets got very luck this year to only have 6 true road games.

  • Joey

    Rex played Pryor at FS because they had practice squad players in the secondary thanks to our beloved GM the last two years. And guess what- Bowles and Mikey Mac chose Geno to start too!!! you got that point?

  • John Hunter

    Point is, Bowles had the BALLS to stick with him. Rex would’ve made the idiotic mistake of putting Oh No Geno back at the top of the depth chart the first day he was cleared to play…and you know this.

  • RONBO19

    Joey, finally, something we agree on. Yes the Jets did get lucky with the schedule in more ways than one. The7 vs. 8 true road games did help. Even more that that was the fact that our opponents have a combined record of 57-63 and if you subtract NE’s 10-2 its even uglier at 47-61. See, we can play nice Joey. We don’t need to call each other names. Honestly, I admire your willingness to state your case and there is some truth to what you say. I just think the Jet fan base grew tired of all the proclamations and promises that never came to be. It was time to move on and most here are more interested in what’s to come rather than what never happened in the past. Time to move on bro!

  • RONBO19

    VonDarkmoore, good points but if you recall a lot of Pryors problems were also due to the fact that he missed or showed up late to meetings and as a result he went into games poorly prepared. There was also talk in the local news that he was inattentive in practice and some felt he was lazy? The S positions these days are pretty much interchangeable so these guys need to develop into well rounded versatile players On occasion they may be required to line up as corners so the idea of a true full time box safety is passé! He’s not doing as well as many here think as his PFF ratings (he’s ranked as the 80th best S) are still mediocre but he’s night and day better than last year and very much on the rise.

  • Joey

    I highly doubt any coach would have put Geno back in with the Jets at 5-1. But hey, keep living in your own world.

  • John Hunter

    Let’s say for good debate sake Rex wasn’t idiotic enough to put Oh No back in the starting lineup at 4-1, he certainly would’ve done it during our losing slump that led to us being 5-5. You can act all shy and ignorant to his dumb ways if you want, but we all know Rex is capable of making the most dumbest decisions known to mankind when it comes to Head Coaching.

    Personally, I believe Geno would’ve been able to pull Rex behind closed doors and successfully begged for his job back and it would’ve worked.

    The beauty of all of this is we will never know, however, I like my assumptions to be real close to accurate based on his track record.

  • John Hunter

    Meh….I believe Rex thought he was smarter than everyone and just like with Coples, he tried to convert a player outside of his comfort zone. Both backfired.

    And for them starting Geno….it wasn’t in the immediate aftermath to him missing a meeting for the movies my friend…..you’re grasping and sounding desperately less smarter than what you really are (to be kind).