No Huddle – New York Jets Head Into June Edition

TJ Rosenthal goes No Huddle on the major storylines around the New York Jets

TJ Rosenthal kicks off another week of New York Jets coverage at Turn On The Jets with his weekly No Huddle – Make sure to give TJ a follow on Twitter on Turn On The Jets a follow on Facebook.

Broadway Joe and Johnny Football

It was Broadway Joe Namath’s birthday this past Saturday which got me thinking: How would his sixties era persona and lifestyle have been portrayed like had he lived the same way in today’s world of social media? Probably something like the way Johnny Manziel’s is currently painted. Now if Johnny Football can lead the lowly Browns to a Super Bowl victory one day, watch the same haters turn their own words into superlatives. The negative connotations that today go along with his party boy behavior rebranded as examples of style and flair tomorrow. Just win baby.

Willie Colon: Better May Than August

There is never a good time for surgery, but if an NFL player has to undergo a knee scope for a minor injury I guess it might as well be now. Rex Ryan said that OG Willie Colon, a guy who has brought leadership and positive energy since his arrival two years ago, will be ready when things get real in September and won’t be rushed back. Good. It’s late May. There’s plenty of time. The unavoidable August injury surprises from preseason game action that threaten to change the direction of an entire season? Those get me worried.

Sanchez is a Human Interest Story, For Now

There were some diehards who took offense to NY Post Brian Costello’s piece on former Jet and current Eagles backup QB Mark Sanchez last week. After all, why linger in the past? When it comes to the Sanchise, what’s done is done. The good the bad and the ugly. Let it go and keep the attention on the current Jets, right?

On the other hand, it’s fair to view Sanchez as a viable human interest story for now too. Think about it, A former top ten pick and star in New York, once considered a franchise QB for a QB starved franchise. A recognizable face even to non football fans. One who almost took the Jets all the way as a kid before his career started tumbling, then Buttfumbling. These days Sanchez is starting over from the bottom in a more modest role with the hopes of resurrecting his confidence and career.

If the local beat writers want to cover him as a symbolic story about a guy who had it all but now must climb up that mountain again, fine. Following him all year as he wears a headset and holds a clipboard behind budding young signal caller Nick Foles would be unnecessary though, and the very point where I would start throwing flags. There’s only so much of going back in time I can take as well, and I’m rooting for the guy.

What Would It Take to Switch to Vick?

The Jets are saying that Geno Smith is the guy until further notice. That he will be tough to beat out. Fine. We all get that. How quickly he’d be pulled if he struggled in the regular season is unknown though. As is the effect of a scenario where Vick has a lights out summer as Smith breaks camp looking pedestrian.

Nobody truly knows what would it will take to sound the alarm bell and make Rex Ryan turn to Vick. That’s where the drama lies and why it remains alive as a topic we all must endure, like it or not. Geno is not safe enough, and the parameters that have been set for Vick unseating him are unclear.

Quick Hits

– I had a passing thought last week and raised it on Twitter asking folks “how much does Tom Brady have left?” The general consensus was three to four years but of course there were the glass half empty Jet fans who went George Blanda on the matter. Responding that he’d be around and highly functional for another eight to ten years. Scary thought.

The question for you all is “will Jimmy Garoppolo be the guy to make Brady’s eventual exit a smooth transition for the Pats?”

– Stephen Hill is going to have a good camp. I can feel it. No, seriously. I mean it.

– Free agent Ed Reed, 35, says that he hopes to continue playing football. Man I loved Ed Reed as a Raven and wanted so much for him to make a real impact on the field when he signed here last season during the stretch drive. Oh well.

  • KAsh

    Brady was looking shaky towards the end of last year. Shaky Brady does still equate to an above-average NFL starting QB, but the Patriots’s refusal to upgrade the guys catching passes make Brady’s offenses less harrowing the deeper into the season he plays.

    As for a modern-day Namath, he would be portrayed as any other macho NFLer that wore women’s pantyhose in a TV commercial. Modern-day Joe Namath might have been less ridiculed, as we have become more accepting of those sorts of things. This fan base knows what a modern-day, social networking Joe Namath would experience, as we had Mark Sanchez strip down to be featured on GQ two years ago and then have his dancing buttcheeks pop up on an eternal six-second loop last year. The issue with Manziel’s Vegas trip is not that he likes to party. Partiers are not foreign to the NFL and everyone knew Manziel would be one of them.

    The issue I see is that Manziel vowed to lift and carry a downtrodden franchise in a downtrodden city back to greatness, to be their savior. A slew of articles about how the Browns selected Manziel – how a homeless man told the owner to draft him, how the fans snapped up the season tickets as soon as he was drafted, how the Browns traded up for him because he was someone that actually wanted to play in Cleveland – demeaned the franchise, its fans, and its city so they could better embrace Johnny. And the first chance he got, Manziel fled Cleveland. Between rookie training camp, the offseason workouts, and the OTAs that were going to start next week, Manziel had one extra day off, an extra twenty four hours. He used eight of them on a round-trip to Vegas to live it up with a player from a (successful) rival AFC team. After all his words of love about Cleveland, the place he wanted to be was its spiritual opposite. Namath was Broadway Joe, an embodiment of NYC, which is why so many people here accepted him. Manziel is an embodiment of Vegas that seems to have lied to get into the hearts of the people of Cleveland. Namath could have won five Super Bowls here, but his memory would be tarnished if all that time he had wanted to play in California.

  • mike

    i personally think vick has a much better shot at the starting job than the coaches and front office are letting on. if it’s an open competition, the fact that vick is the vastly superior player might end up being a factor.

  • Bruce Harper

    Question for TOJ fans- Do you know where the video of the Jets Draft room erupting immediately before their draft pick-when Mosely was chosen and they knew that Pryor was available?

  • John Hunter

    The Geno doubters is about to learn something new the remaining offseason. A 1 year developed Smith with weapons won’t get beat out by a declining Vick. The game slowed down for him on the tail end of last season. His confidence is solid, and he’s up for the competition challenge. He knows the FO, Coaches, & Teammates believe in him, and he will not disappoint.

    #7 is a baller, and he’ll be our week 1 starter.

  • Jeremiah Johnson

    I disagree that the drama over the QB situation results from less than 100% transparency on what it would take for Vick to supplant Geno. The clown media would do everything possible to create the perception of drama regardless of the circumstances.

  • Jeremiah, I disagree. Now they might drum up QB stuff if Geno were to struggle and the Jwts go say 1-3.. but a more defined layout would push the media back. The problem is, the Jets can’t really define what it would take to move to Vick because it would box them in.

    Kash, who wouldn’t flee Cleveland for Vegas? Lol

    Mike, I wonder that some times myself. Will be interesting to see it play out when the real bullets start to fly. Talk is cheap and to paraphrase Mike Tyson, there’s always a plan before getting punched in the mouth,

  • KAsh

    The media took a non-quote – Vick saying that Geno had the inside track for the job – and made it a big deal. Whatever anyone does, this is going to be the main story about the Jets’s training camp this year.

    As for numbers and definition, I think that Geno will be the starter for the Green-White Scrimmage and the first preseason game. If Geno is stalling and Vick’s throwing touchdowns in those two games, I think you start to see the needle turn towards Vick. Sanchez won last season not through any spectacular accomplishment but because of Geno’s inability to move the ball down the field, a persistent trait even at the heights of last year’s regular season. Depending on how ineffective Geno is, he may start the second preseason game or Vick may supplant him at that point, but if Vick is rolling and Geno floundering, there is no way Vick is not named the starter for the third preseason game.

    Consistent ball movement. We cannot lead the league in three-and-outs for a second year in a row.

  • Dan in RI

    Geno would have to fulfill the fantasies of frustrated Jets fans who assert definitively “Geno Sucks”. For Geno to keep the starting job, he will have to show complete understanding and control of the offense. He can still make mistakes–but he has to show real progress, not just from last year’s beginning, but from the way he finished. Personally, I believe he will. But the coaches and players will know if he’s made the transition from deer in the headlights rookie to NFL-ready QB, and the decision will be made based on that.

  • Mark

    Picking up on KAsh’s point about last year’s 3 & outs:

    While who doesn’t love Ivory’s punishing running style it seemed he was stopped cold on 1st and then 2d down runs way too often.

    Long break-away runs made his game stats look good at game’s end. Give me six 5 yard gains over one 30 yard pickup but 5 no gains.

    I’d guess stats would show Ivory had the highest mean, but lowest median running pickup. I certainly don’t think he was ‘dogging’. I just can’t understand it.

  • Jeremiah Johnson

    Providing a metric for when Vick should supplant Geno as the starter might put the drama headlines on the back burner, however there is no clear, easy, objective answer to this, & any complicated reasoning given to the clown media would surely result in “sound bite” oversimplification used to create the perception of drama.

    Basing this decision solely on statistics would be foolish, & hopefully Rex & MM are looking at the “big picture” & will make the decision based on whether, as Dan in RI said, “if (Geno’s) made the transition from deer in the headlights rookie to NFL-ready QB” or something similar to that. IMO, Geno should start as long as he “sufficiently” improved his weaknesses (reading defenses, footwork, etc) in the offseason & shows continued improvement through training camp & the exhibition games.

    I fully agree about the 3 & outs last year. The offense doesn’t need to be the best in the NFL for the team to have a successful season, but reducing the 3 & outs will greatly improve overall field position & give the defense time to rest.

  • KAsh


    I agree and disagree. Statistics are subjective. Ivory had one of the highest totals for yards after contact in the NFL last year. Where I agree is that Ivory gaining twenty yards and nineteen of them being YAC because someone tapped his ankle at the LoS makes Ivory seem like a much better back than he is. Where I disagree is that if Ivory is getting stuffed and always has to fight through tackles to gain yards, that is not his fault, but that of the o-line.

    The run blocking has been deteriorating. Last year, we had Ferguson, who was never great at run blocking, Winters, who was a rookie, and Ducasse, whose incompetence at pass-blocking nullified any advantage in run-blocking, Mangold, who is aging, Colon, who was our best run-blocker, and Howard, who had a down year run blocking. This year, Ferguson and Mangold are a year older. Howard is gone. Colon is already injured and still has to recover from a torn biceps at the end of last year. You have to hope Winters improves, Giacomini is solid, and Aboushi/Campbell/Ijalana/Dozier/Freeman develop enough to push some of the starters. Otherwise, the situation cannot improve.

  • Mark

    I agree it is clearly wrong to attribute the stuffs to Ivory.

    However, it seems to be either the playcalling or the OL. Do you think?

  • John C

    Mark & Kash, I agree with both of you. No one that runs as hard, and metes out punishment like Ivory, would be stopped for so many no gains, if the OL was doing it’s job. Hate to say it, but Ferguson and Mangold have been trending down for three years, and no one else has stepped up. People talk about getting a blocking TE, how about getting a couple of blocking O-Linemen!!!

  • Geronimo

    I’m not surprised about Ivory’s stuffs. He runs fast and hard, but high. He just doesn’t have the style.

    Some guys run low. Watch an old Bills game. Thurman Thomas would practically fall forward every run, while keeping his legs moving just fast enough so his chin didn’t hit turf. Guys would jump out of the way to protect their ankles. Little guy…. Lots of TDs….